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1  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / Off Topic Chat / Re: synchronicity on: Monday 05 January, 2009
Sweetpea, I'm glad it helped Smiley

If it's all claptrap, the entire thread is, so I wouldn't worry about it being claptrap, it is what it is Smiley
2  Go RAW! The Testimonial Section! / RAW Journals - Your RAW Experiences / Re: A new journal of GreenGoddess... on: Monday 05 January, 2009
i was eating the coconut oil,til my liver said what the! too much fattiness girl..yup its an awesome fat...i just use it external now,its amazing stuff...
I doubt the coconut oil deserves all the blame.  The essential oils in the tooth elixir may be pretty toxic to the liver. 
Ingestion of essential oils has been pioneered in France - the people that prescribe ingesting of essential oils are DOCTORS - essential oils are up there with pharmaceutical company drugs as things that need to be taken under medical supervision.  You can get some over the counter medications that contain essential oils, but they are through pharmacies, not from the supermarket. 

There is a reason essential oils come with either child proof caps or those droppers - safety from ingesting - eg less than 0.5ml per day of eucalyptus essential oil causes liver problems - 2.5 ml per day can easily cause cirrhosis of the liver and jaundice.   The main organ ingesting essential oils causes problems for is the liver, though some affect the kidneys and other organs. The liver has to metabolise the very potent very concentrated chemicals found in the essential oil.  I'd be very cautious of the ingesting the tsuli essential oil with liver concerns, also the spikenard.

I'm sure the concentrations are probably ok for someone with a healthy liver, but you have often referred to your compromised liver - the coconut oil might not have been too much alone, but add the tsuli to it and it could easily be the tipping point.

3  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Kitchen adventures! on: Friday 12 December, 2008
I recall there was a very similar thread to this about adventures with blenders with no lid on..... I think blenders with no lids get even more on the ceiling Smiley

If there is no blender and you want to include ice, using 2 strips of cling wrap to cover the container with the bamix going through the middle can work, but in the long run a blender is easier, IF you keep the lid on.

4  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: What are your favourite Recipe Books for 2008? on: Friday 12 December, 2008
Oh, if we're not doing new books of 2008, I've got 2 I always use, the afore mentioned I am Grateful and Raw by Roxanne Klein and Charlie Trotter, which isn't strictly raw (maple syrup etc), because it was right at the start of the raw food 'movement', but I always go back to it for a bit of WOW!
5  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / Personal Growth And Manifestation / Re: Naysayers on: Friday 12 December, 2008
Your family's concern is because they care about you, they are more concerned about you than concerned about discrediting a raw diet. So don't discuss a raw diet.  As Rudolf said, you will never win them over because it will make them wrong.  Don't make them wrong, don't make how they've eaten all these years wrong, they did the best they knew how to.  Feel free to make your eating disorder past wrong, but that can be risky because it will turn into discussing what you do now.  Your past when you ate differently to them was obviously wrong (eating disorder), it's going to be a challenge to make something that is still eating differently to them OK. 

So try and avoid discussing it other than how much you've eaten.  Drop 'raw' from your discussions with your family, no how yummy raw spinach is, just how yummy spinach is. 


The next few weeks will be a HUGE challenge with family get togethers which will almost inevitably involve food.  If you're normally on mono meals, you'll have to let go of that for family occassions while they are so concerned (*added* I saw your post in another thread about what you've eaten - doesn't sound mono, so no need to worry about that Smiley ). You need to bring a HUGE salad, with bright colours (green, red, orange)  and a HUGE fruit salad and maybe some high-fat gourmet raw dessert you would be comfortable eating a piece of - something heavy and creamy that people would never think of as healthy, let alone raw (I am Grateful pies are amazing at fooling people), the gourmet raw is more for them to try..  It doesn't matter if you're the only one bringing food, eg if your mother does the cooking for 30 for lunch and gets offended if anyone brings something, she'll get over it, as long as you have something she prepares.  Don't turn up with enough food for just you and keep your food separate eating disorder style - eat your food, get other people to eat your food, eat some of their food (there has got to be a salad, even if it has some non-raw ingredient in the dressing or something, this is the time to compromise).  You need to shift the focus from not enough food to the abundance of food you are prepared to eat. 


Don't make what they do wrong/unhealthy/evil/etc, just make what you do different.  Drop any ethical discussion about why they need to change, they don't. Don't let them worry you're not eating enough.  You're still eating, just in a different way.
6  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Potential Health Issues with Raw Vegan ?? on: Friday 12 December, 2008
After being raw vegan for 8 months, i found that my nails were flaking, ridged and weaker than they were some time ago when i was on more of a SAD diet.  >>>  It was suggested on this forum that nails were dead and did not necessarily reflect the health of ones system.  Every place that i researched on the net and in medical books suggested that that was not necessarily the case.
I think it was me that said the nails are dead once they leave the nail bed.  How they come out of the nail bed certainly reflects the health of your system WHEN the nails come out of the nail bed. Sorry for the confusion.  There is a time delay from when the nails grow far enough from the nail bed for you to notice if they are flakey, or ridges etc, white spots you can usually see realvely quickly as they come out of the nail bed, but the rest of the standard nail concerns you need a bit more nail to spot it. just as there is a time delay to see any improvements. Nails and hair may be dead, but they are an important diagnostic tool for what was going on when the hails/hair was formed.  There is no point doing a hair analysis on a piece of hair 20cm from your scalp as an indication of your mineralisation levels today, it was formed a few years ago. Hair analysis is done from hair near the scalp and shows the levels a few months ago.  The same thing applies to the nails, they are dead, but they are an indicator of what was going on when they were in an active growth stage.
7  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: ordering products from o/s for personal use.... on: Thursday 11 December, 2008
I've ordered irish moss from US and it arrived in less than a week about 2 months ago.  I'm always amazed they never open stuff I get from India, that includes oils, herbs, hand stitched into muslin wrapped tamper proof packages. I hardly ever order any food and don't bother with supplements from US (other than the afore mentioned irish moss) but a client of mine is always ordering stuff from America that is not supposedl to be imported and it always gets through.  shrug

I think most people get stuff through with no problems in personal orders, occassionally things will be checked, and it might be siezed and you might loose everything in the order. It's one of those risks - only you can decide if the financial loss is worth risking, and you order/don't order as you decide.
8  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: What are your favourite Recipe Books for 2008? on: Thursday 11 December, 2008
I got I am Grateful in 2007 so can't put in in this year's favourites, but their dessert book came out this year.......  Sweet Gratitude: A New World of Raw Desserts by Matthew Rogers and Tiziana Alipo Tamborra.

It includes quite a few of the same desserts as I am Grateful, but lots of new ones, and much clearer instructions fro the old and new desserts  (weights are given etc) much more details about why what is doing what.  It's about the same size as I am Grateful, but only desserts   thumbup
9  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Fitness & Health / Re: Raw Food, Health & Fitness retreat!!! on: Wednesday 10 December, 2008
I think the too raw for many on raw-pleasure comment is unfair of Harley and everyeryone here.  I think only one person on here has admitted they found Harley a challenge to deal with in person (not everyone has to like everyone else, and there may be a possibilty that more felt that way and didn't publicise it, and a few people chose not to deal with him), but a huge majority has always said that he was absolutely amazing face to face, totally different to the online persona.
The durianrider online persona is something else, and unless he is taking that on as his face to face method of communicating, Harley won't be too raw for many on raw-pleasure.
10  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / Off Topic Chat / Re: synchronicity on: Tuesday 09 December, 2008
Sweetpea, most psychics I know smoke heavily.  It was explained to me as self smudging for clearing the energy around them.  Maybe it was the smoking, or maybe the old life style made you more sensitive to energies you no longer need to recognise.  There are different levels energetically, maybe not being sensitive to energies you picked up in the past actually means you have moved on to different vibrational levels and haven't quite tuned in properly.  I don't like using higer and lower, it's a value judgement on something being above, which can easily be turned into being better than lower, when it is just different. People are where they are, some want to develop to something else, some are quite content as they are, either because they are content or they are ignorant of the possibilities and are self limiting.
Sounds like you're vibrating on a different level and haven't quite started recognising things like you could before on different frequencies. If you were that sensitive before, it will probably come back - you've just got to recognise it might not be the way you expect, because you seem to have quite a lot of expectations about how it should be.
11  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Beauty / Re: Nivea substitute? on: Tuesday 09 December, 2008
Nivea works because Nivea is mainly mineral oil, it puts an occlusive layer over the skin keeping everything out and keeping everything in.  You'd get the same effect covering your skin with cling wrap but Nivea seals around the edges better.  Most people on here will say mineral oil is evil, but it's actually NOT that bad, it just sits on the surface, it doesn't get absorbed, the molecules are too big, it's just so far from being natural that most people don't like it.

Use bees wax or shea butter for a similar result, or coconut oil, but they all are a bit too hard to work with so more recommendations will me mix with an oil to soften it, just like the spreadable butter products, dairy butter whipped up with oil to make it spread more easily.

If you want something that will nourish your skin, put essential oils/Vit E/Rose hip/evening primrose/etc, generally mixed in jojoba to make a serum, on skin then put something thicker on top to seal it in.  thean wean yourself off the need for something thicker.  If you're used to Nivea, you're proably going to take a while to cut down from something creamy.
Shea butter with aloe vera juice actually makes a good relatively light cream, but you still need a nourishing serum type thing underneath if you want to nourish your skin from the outside.  I posted a recipe using shea/aloe in this section a while ago.....

make sure you keep water levels and Omega3 levels up too internally.

12  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Beauty / Re: Does anyone know what argireline is? on: Tuesday 09 December, 2008
I had to go have a poke around to recognise it - used to be called faux-tox - fake botox.  Almost every site says synthetic - ie made in a test tube, nothing natural about it.  I've not found any positive stories about it other than on product sites, all the reviews/message boards are fairly obviously not enthused about it.  One of the problems with it is it is a Spanish development, so something gets lost in translation with early user reports. 

I think it would be of concern for long term use.  For special occassion one off use, maybe (that Freeze 24/7 stuff includes it), you would be exposing your skin to some chemical concoction you'd need to detox from, but one event every now and then your system could probably cope, using a product including it every day would be quite a toxic load and most of them seem to be the 'after 6 weeks' kind of products.

www.cosmeticsdatabase.com is affiliated with www.ewg.org and is usually pretty reliable, but it has acetyl hexapeptide-3 as low or emerging concers, so not much help this time, but it's usually a good place to start.  If you google argireline side effects there's lots of flu symptoms and droopy eyes......
13  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Potential Health Issues with Raw Vegan ?? on: Tuesday 09 December, 2008
Most of those potential health issues with raw vegan mentioned are too little good fat, and they'd experience the same problems eating a 100% junk food diet full of trans fat. Too little good fat usually means too little good fat in the diet, vegan or meat eater.  Some people can't convert plant fats to DHA, doesn't matter how much they eat, they need an additional supply of DHA, there are vegan DHA supplements, but they're usually a challenge to find.  Some people convert plant fats very easily.

811 is a splinter group of Natural Hygiene, Dr Doug is still involved with Natural Hygiene.

Edgar Cayce said 2 almonds a day prevent cancer.  Apricot kernals need a lot of care, almonds aren't as powerful, but are definitely the easier option (skin on almonds).
14  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Dec Nova on: Wednesday 03 December, 2008
The December Nova magazine has an article about raw foods - it's mainly about why cooking until brown is bad, but it gets into raw eventually.  It's not in the online edition, you'll have to find a paper one.   It's the Frregiveness issue with the Chrisse decoration on the front.
15  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / Off Topic Chat / Re: Water Filters on: Wednesday 03 December, 2008
I'm sure you can get one that pushes onto the tap, BUT I am sure it would pop off all the time when you turned the tap on full.  I'd recommend just go for a bench top container one, the clay/ceramic, or fancy magnet ones, depending on budget and what you want to spend your money on.

Do you have a dishwasher or a dishwasher connection under the sink? (Unlikely with no thread on the tap, but you neve know)  You can get connectors that go onto the dishwasher tap outlet - most of the undersink ones connect that way now, but you could still have it feeding into a bench top one.
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