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« on: Sunday 02 April, 2006 »

****sigh****
every time i eat something cooked now i feel low, physically and emotionally...
when i first started my journey, hubby said he'd support me 100%, just as long as i didn't try to convert the fam. however, lately he has been all complaints that he wants me to eat with him and our boys (meaning the same food, as i DO eat with them just not the same stuff) the worst is that he knows how difficult it is for me to get to the store to do the shopping myself (that would be me and our 4 boys- 5, 4, 2 and 2mo) so he goes and gets conventional produce from the local safeway the other night. thankfully, he noticed how off it tasted and so did the boys. how ironic that he constantly harangues me about the cost of our organic grocery bill but wastes $$ on stuff no one wants to eat.
i've eaten crap today... cooked crap. chop suey & rice and pasta/sauce... i feel ill.
right now i'm having my 16oz of carrot juice. i'm starting over. i will bite the proverbial bullet and cart the boys to the nat foods store. we will get REAL food. i can taste the caramel apples now!!! (yes, that would be raw caramel apples  smiley)
he doesn't want me buying my cashew butter and tahini from my usual place either... my b-day's next week & i've actually asked for gc's for the store so i don't have to use "his" $$ to get it!
i get stressed and i eat whatever i can find (usually not too bad- vegan at the very least!) and lately that's included cheeses and stuff made w/animal products (no meat/grease... they'd prob kill me dead in seconds...) part of the problem is that i've broken my blender (again). i must get a new one... i must! i miss my daily smoothies! ooooo- i am so cranky w/o my smoothies :angry:
i have to see how much he got paid (i'm sahm), get dressed, get the boys dressed, get everyone in the car, drive for 30-45 min. get everybody out of the car and into the store, keep everyone corralled, get the shopping done and get everyone back in the car and home. + there'll be pee breaks and nursing breaks in there somewhere... that's just a trip to the grocer's!!!
it will be so worth it to have real food in the house again. i know if we do this and he gets home he'll be happy that we got the shopping done and not want to do anything else but sleep wherever he sits. i know he's tired and stressed and depressed. i just wish he knew he wasn't the only one.
i hope they have carrot juice in the freezer! i'm out... i'll call first...
i'm rambling now rolleyes
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 April, 2006 »

Hi motherwytch,

Welcome! 

Right off the bat I will say that I suspect I am not going to be able to offer any assistance in a practical sense.  I have only myself to worry about, and so can be as kooky, impractical and diverse as I desire in my dietary choices.

Nonetheless, I offer you total support in your transitioning phase, whilst carrying out one of (in my humble opinion) THE most important jobs on the planet - that of a parent.

I can only imagine how difficult it must be to wish to eat raw, and at the same time put cooked food on the table for a family.

You say you have 'eaten cooked crap today'.  Doesn't matter.  It's gone now, in a puff of smoke.  Phew.  Do not stress yourself unnecessarily, and beat yourself up.  I know it's hard, especially when you have physical symptoms (lethargy, emotional turmoil).  How beautiful it is, that in the next moment we can all start anew, and choose raw, choose vigour and vitality.

You say that for your up and coming birthday you have asked for gc's from your store (I assume these are credits - there could be a cultural divide here, or I'm thick  cheesy) for your nut butter etc.

It's just a thought - but would asking for a blender instead be of use?  You seem to miss your blender so much, and your smoothies.  If you had smoothies back in your life, you could whizz up some wonderfully filling drinks that would satisfy you and your boys too.  Have you tried green smoothies?  These have the most unbelievable grounding and calming effect.  This might be just the thing to soothe you as you corral those kiddies!  cheesy

Perhaps the oldest two boys could help with the fruit and veg selection at the store?  Each could be set a task to select x no. of carrots/apples etc.  You could explain what qualities they need to look for etc.  I have seen children in my local fruit & veg shop that seem to relish helping select things - makes them feel that they are helping, and a bit 'grown up'.  Off they trot to get 'four big carrots' for mum....

In amongst grocery shopping (with 4 kids in tow), cleaning, mothering, being a wife etc. etc. do you ever have any 'me' time?  I suspect very little, if at all. 

Do you have a friend/neighbour/relative that might be able to look after some of the children at any time?  Then, perhaps when the baby is napping you could just sit and breathe, or read a trashy magazine, or run your toes through some grass, or sit in the sun.  That, of itself, would be amazing in retoring energy and buoying your spirits.

I know how hard it is to maintain a path that is not mainstream when there is little support near.  Thankfully, due to the magic of the web, we can at least gain 'virtual' support when needed.

There are many generous, learned people on this forum who will be able to provide you with more practical suggestions than I can.  Some perhaps have had similar experiences.  I am in awe of parents, but do not have the necessary experience to be able to give any useful tips on how to manage all that you must on a daily basis.

But I can give you a virtual hug.... here it comes.... (((((((motherwytch)))))), and send lots of love and support.

Remember to be gentle on yourself.  Oh, and be sure to keep posting, and let us know how you are going.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 April, 2006 »

welcome motherwytch...what a woman!! i feel for you,be strong,do what is right and resonates within you...how amazing you are,your strength,your convictions,i admire you very much-it obviously isn't easy for you,with your little ones and hubby testing you..he may just  feel you are growing and moving in another direction(a little)-and he isn't keeping pace,and if you eat the cooked food with him...it will be okay-for him...(no disrespect to him whatsoever kiss)if you are mindful of that,you may understand better his motivation,for wanting to keep you where he is at,with your eating,does this make sense?doesn't mean that you have to eat the cooked food,because ironically,he says not to convert the family,but what is he doing to you,making you feel as though you must eat cooked food with him?just a thought...

hope you found your carrot juice..mmm
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 April, 2006 »

oh, thank you both! absolutely lovely to get such support so quickly kiss thank you thank you!!
since i haven't figured out how to add to this journal, i will update in this reply...
hubby got home yesterday just as i was turning off the computer. we all went to the store. i went in alone as the boys were all sleeping and headed straight for produce (aka- REAL FOOD!!!) the avocados were gorgeous (got 4 smiley), the tomatoes were huge (got 6), got 4 onions (red/yellow), a bulb of garlic, got a big ol' bag of carrots, 2 heads of cauliflower, 2 bunches of broccoli (should have gotten more... one of hubby's faves), 6 cucumbers (aw, yes! chips and dip!!!), 2 zucchini, 2 yellow squash, a head of cabbage, bunch of kale, 2 heads of lettuce (red/green leaf), (forgot mushrooms huh), 6 pears, 6 apples, 1lb dates (there it is girls! caramel apples!!!), 6 oranges, 3 bunches bananas, 6 plums, and (drumroll, please...) 2 young coconuts!!! i almost cried when i saw the coconuts. instead i walked up to the produce girl (friend of mine so it wasn't incredibly awkward cheesy) and gave her a hug. she hugged me back and said, "what's wrong?" and i said, "nothing- you got more coconuts, thank you!" then i asked if there was any carrot juice in the freezer (not optimal, i know. best i can do as i have no juicer!) and she said yes! i got 5 quarts LOL... 10 days of pure, brilliant, lovely carrot juice! the oj was fresh squeezed that day  cheesy so i got 5 quarts of that as well (1 of which was completely gobbled up last night at supper between the 6 of us- well, the 5 of us as the baby is only on my milk for the time being...) again, not optimal but incredible as it is not pasturized in any way- juiced in a cold room, bottled in a cold room then placed in the refrigerator. i also got myself a couple loaves of manna to wean off the nonsense. i also got the fam their eggs (they each had 2 with shredded cheese for breakfast this morning- blech! hubby probably had 3 or more...), cheese, yogurt, and bread. oh, 2 bags of raw org. almonds, 1 bag raw org walnuts, 2 bags raisins, 2 bags dried cranberries...
our supper last night was "kid-friendly tabouli" (basically cous cous, cucumber and tomato with a wee bit of olive oil and lemon juice) a light end to my cooked eats smiley
my breakfast this morning was 16oz oj, the water of one coconut, and a lovely fresh and dried fruit salad with sunflower seeds... everyone had oj and some of the salad that HUBBY made. i told him last night on the ride home from the store that i really want to go raw and that doesn't mean i cannot eat with them. i just won't be eating the same thing but would try to make a recipe that "resembles" what they're eating... we also talked about how the boys attitudes have been lately and the sicknesses they keep having and have both admitted that we've all been eating crappy lately. so, we will be putting a lot of effort into making different grains (other than rice and pasta!) and beans (other than soy products- tofu, tempeh...) before Will was born i was able to do this successfully and quinoa was one of their faves now they don't have the taste for it anymore huh
so... oh, my dessert last night was a bowl full of chopped apple, dates, & walnuts sprinkled with flax oil, nutmeg, cinnamon and a dash of salt...
i am already beginning to get the tingly feeling throughout my body (the last time i was able to be raw for any days lasted 3 and i got the tingle on the 3rd day plus my sinuses were clear! i am so looking forward to that cool alright, friends. i'm off to check out the other boards.
i really do appreciate the warm welcomes and well wishes (and hugs! virtual or no!) perhaps one day i will make my way to the land down under and enjoy one of the parties i've read about... i've heard it's lovely (Aus/NZ and the parties)
blessings
ps~ the blender... it is cheaper for me to buy a blender than my butters as i buy them bulk and the least expensive is around US$40. i can get a 1/2way decent blender for around the same amount + hubby will use the blender for various things but refuses to use nut butter that cost over $7/jar... honestly, who refuses raw cashew butter? who!? lol... mmm... yes, i need a blender! and the boys do help with the produce- counting, colors, shapes, etc (home/unschoolers) when they're not busy helping our friends who work there smiley
yikes- sorry this is so long!
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 April, 2006 »

meal #2 of the day is raw! diced tomato, diced avocado, clover sprouts, olive oil and cs salt.
i had a small handful of almonds a bit ago for a snack...
why is avocado so GOOD??? ugh... so freakin' good...
i've noticed something rather sad regarding my emotional state when i eat certain foods... not just emotional but psychological as well... when i eat something cooked i feel weighed down and foggy. and cranky (mainly because i'm mad at myself for not having "will power"). when i catch a glimpse of myself in a mirror i see everything that is wrong with me (in my pov) then i start on this self-loathing kick then blaming and on and on... but when i'm eating living foods i am more alive. i can feel my cells doing their jobs- pushing out and devouring all the yuck. i look in the mirror and can find things i like in myself. i'm more patient with my family.
so if eating live makes me feel so good why do i have such a struggle with it? i can definitely trace part of my food and self-worth psychology back to my younger days. i'm sure overcoming the past would help intensely in many ways- not just my raw journey.
my friend said something interesting yesterday (my friend w/the coconuts smiley). she said she was questioning "this whole vegan thing" (she was vegan for years but recently started eating an omnivorous diet). my reply was "i thought you weren't anymore... so what are you questioning- why people are vegan at all?"
"no, why i'm not!"
me: "what do you mean?" (knowing full well)
"i've been eating this way for a few months and i feel like crap! everyday i say to myself, 'i'll get used to it'... but why would i want to get used to feeling like crap?"
we both laughed at her epiphany.
me: "well, what are you going to do?"
"i don't know. i don't know!"
it's the same thing that i go through with raw smiley
now, what am i going to have as a snack while i watch the rest of the awful truth? i wonder if my carrot juice is thawed yet....
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 April, 2006 »

Welcome Motherwytch Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 April, 2006 »

MW-you are awesome,love love love your sparkling prose and personality,loved your shopping list and your open honesty,you are going to be so successful with your raw living,i can feel it resonating through your words written on my screen...

you go woman,i'm in awe!!
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 April, 2006 »

thanks for the welcome Carrotgurrl smiley
thanks for the inspiry R'g'N smiley

i would appreciate you not reading the black- not because i don't want you to know what it says but because it is so negative!
i am being tested today...
hubby has no idea how much he spends on any given day and so i try to order my lovely raw cashew butter and tahini and my order is declined! i check our account and it's over $200 in the red!!!! that means, instead of buying my nut butters and a food processor with my b-day $$, i get to pay off the debt in our account... i feel ill, i'm so *ed off! :angry: :angry: :angry: it is simply unfair. this is my b-day money that i should be able to spend on silly things, not food for myself and i can't even spend it on that! we're supposed to be trying to buy a house... yet it is completely and totally my fault that we cannot afford something in a nice area that will fit our family. i am totally ranting and i'd appreciate it if no one would read this venom as i don't want you all affected by it... my life has been ridiculous from the start! all i ask of the fates is some sort of fairness... i've paid my freaking dues. i wake up every day and love the newness of it. inevitably, something or someone attacks my optimism and i start praying for an escape.

all right. enough of this angst/complaining/bs/unhappiness/negativity/loathing. back to the topic that concerns my LIV/FE...
yesterday, that afternoon snack consisted of 16oz of carrot juice (it had thawed just enough and tasted like liquidy orangey honey and was simply decadent!) and a chunk of manna. supper consisted of 4 kale leaves (lacinato) stuffed with a mixture of diced yellow squash, sliced kalamatas, tahini and onion/pepper relish (more than likely not "raw" unfortunately...) very good smiley kale is superior as a raw green! much better than cooked... last night was my 1st time having raw kale. it has always tended to go bad in the fridge because i always either forgot it was in there or never got around to boiling it (my boys eat it boiled with potatoes...) dessert was my fave caramel apples. fam had some kid-friendly split-pea soup w/carrots and potatoes mixed in w/vegan apple pie for dessert after their post-supper fruit (we always have a piece of fruit after supper- law in our home!)
on to today- breakfast was 16oz oj and a banana (they weren't ripe when we got them so i bagged them and they are *perfect* now) the snack i just had (remembering that it came after my anger and possibly because of it as well!) consisted of the heel of cinnamon date manna and a slice of the same manna topped w/raw almond butter, raisins, & cacao nibs. and that was an "angry" snack smiley usually i'm gorging and hating myself after an angry session... i am very content with what i ate. i just realized that... a slight epiphany for me. now there are tears in my eyes... i feel almost as if my anger and all that goes with it is a sickness- a complete mental disease- and that, instead of welcoming it and feeding it with cooked and who-knows-what-else foods and letting it grow, i have told it, "there's no room for you here, right now" and have, instead, planted seeds for a healthier mentality. simply by eating a snack! okay, this calm is a bit eerie for me. i am uncomfortable without my clouds... guess i'll have to get used to feeling GOOD cheesy
shall i have italian (zucchini/yellow squash noodles with a chunky, herb-laden tomato & onion sauce) or asian (same noodles with broccoli and a spicy almond butter sauce) for lunch?this is 1 of my fave parts about my being me- creativity... it is just as delicious to put things together to make a healthy, aesthetically pleasing dish as it is to eat it! i'll have to wait until this wee one is done with his meal... hopefully, i'll be able to put him down for a bit and get some things done before i need to pee & feed him again (((((cross fingers)))))
thank you for letting me rant and come out of it in 1 peace
i love you all my dear new friends!!! kiss
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 April, 2006 »

so, asian won out! here's the recipe cheesy

broccoli soba in spicy almond sauce
1 zucchini, peeled
1 yellow squash (summer variety), peeled
1 carrot, peeled
1c (or more smiley) broccoli florets
2 heaping Tbsp almond butter
2tsp agave nectar
curry paste (prob not raw! so use whatever spicy things you prefer instead) to taste
2-4Tbsp water (depending on desired consistency)
salt to taste

slice veggies (except broccoli, of course) lengthwise using a mandolin w/a julienne blade (stopping at seeds). put all in a bowl and toss slightly.top noodles with broccoli florets. set bowl aside and keep yourself from eating contents until sauce is made!
in a small bowl or cup, mix together butter, agave, paste, water and salt until creamy. pour sauce over broccoli and noodles and devour!
this makes more than enough for one person- probably enough for 2 as a side dish. top with sliced almonds for a fancier looking dish (though it is a beauty w/o also!)
*i used 4Tbsp of water and found that the sauce came out a bit thinner than i would have liked. i also did not use any salt- i've been salting enough lately! you could decrease water and use shoyu/tamari/braggs in place of salt easily*

i'll go ahead and post this in the recipes section, too.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 April, 2006 »

Hi Motherwytch,

I'm sending you the very best and happiest birthday wishes to you right this very minute.  A sad birthday will just not do, you deserve better than this!  You sound like you need a good/positive break in life, it'll come when you least expect it.

Now make sure you at least are good to you on your special day, is there something special that you can do for yourself, maybe a little bit of self pampering tonight with a candle lit bubble bath while hubby takes care of the kids.

Wishing you a Happy Birthday,
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 April, 2006 »

brilliant, Blue! thanks so much for the b-day message kiss it means more than you know!
hopefully, my husband remembers that b-day and we can go letterboxing wednesday (since that's his first day off for the week...) we have boxes to place (finally again!) and i'm in the mood for a good long nature hike cheesy
throw the wee'est in the sling and do my thing- lol!
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 April, 2006 »

Happy Birthday Motherwytch! We are all thinking of you!

And what a beautiful dinner you made yourself - YUMMY!

Sometimes when we change it can feel a little uncomfortable or scary to leave behind old patterns. They can become like our comfort blankets that children have, to be pulled out when we are stressed (I know this well). In choosing healthier options though you are stepping into a brighter future full of marvelous moments, and I'm sure your dream house too. Keep up the great efforts and please post regularly. We'd love to support you!

Cheers,
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 05 April, 2006 »

Sheryl, thanks! i am loving up this support and refer to it constantly during the day smiley how amazing that i am getting such love from oceans away!
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 05 April, 2006 »

(i just realized i forgot to take the carrot juice out of the freezer!!! huh)
i ate a lot of manna yesterday. the funny thing is this: when i first started this journey (and wandered) i thought i was being "good" eating my manna sandwiches and such. now, i feel like i'm cheating when i eat it! because of the grains involved? possibly... the boys had french toast for supper last night with their father (we weren't really talking... when you don't have $$ there's really no point in talking about it, as far as he's concerned...) and i had tomato and relish (same relish i used in my wraps) manna sandwiches... Will was fussy because of his cold so i'm lucky to have been able to cut up the tomato smiley i wish i hadn't been in such a yucky mood while i was making my supper... i would have put sliced avocado on it and clover sprouts as well. well, (LOL) look! i think i just figured out what i'm going to have for lunch today cheesy i'll make some extra for my 2 yo- he doesn't care much for breads and the older 2 will probably request some sort of sandwich for their lunch. i'll slice up some cucumbers into chips and let everyone dig in. anyway, the manna sandwiches were supper. i had my carrot juice afterwards. odd, i don't remember having my fruit... around 10:30pm or so, i had a think!organic bar (which i think of as "raw junkfood") while i was trying to get some laundry done (found a silverfish in the laundry while i was sorting it... sigh... great :angry: but i only found one...) oh, my afternoon snack was "jamaican me crazy" almonds... yummm....
today's breakfast: that good ol' oj and banana... lunch will be (drumroll, please...) diced avo/tomato/cucumber and sprout salad w/olive oil and cs salt. i'll go make our lunch and finish cleaning up the kitchen after i'm done on the comp- then we get to go deposit my b-day $$ so we don't go in the red again. the boys will probably want to go to the park- i'll pack snackies and water, just in case. i need to take a picture of myself as a before and post it so i can spot changes along the way. i saw Sheryl's before and present pictures... how cute is she??? honestly...
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 April, 2006 »

hubby is going to make me one of his gorgeous salads for my b-day supper. they are amazing! lettuces, spinach, cucumber, carrot, cauliflower, orange sections, dried cranberries and sunflower seeds- yummm... excited smiley
i just had some raw jordan almonds with Ry- he loves them. if any of my boys would go raw it would probably be him...
yet another epiphany- i am 28 years old today (US time) and embarking on one of the most important journeys i'll ever experience. (thanks to those of you who've helped me see the *light* kiss)
i'm experiencing some rather yucky symptoms- incredible itchiness! my feet, leg, hands and back are all wicked itchy! has anyone else experienced this? the only other time i've had similar symptoms was when i was detoxing from drug use and when i had epidurals with my 1st 2 pregs....
small price to pay smiley
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