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61  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Fitness & Health / Re: I want to start running, but how? on: Sunday 15 June, 2008
go to your local salvos and get a second hand book on running for 50c. that will give all you all you need to know about running training. and or join a running club.

oh and get super cushioned shoes. unless your a 50kg kenyan superstar running on dirt tracks...
62  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Saturday 14 June, 2008
oh yeah, writing things on paper and putting them on our mirror, fridge, handlebars, wheelchair rails, journal etc helps us remind ourselves of our choices...

ie if someone wants to give up dairy products they could say 'im stealing milk from a baby animal! just cos im not eating enough of the food mother nature has provided for me. dairy contains pus, dirt, hormones and blood. im ingesting the body fluids from thousands of cows that id wash my hands after petting..i wouldnt kiss a cow on the lips, but im happy to guzzle its body fluids? dairy products cause massive defforrestation, erosion etc. they destroy my health and my families.

or cooked food could be
'i know raw is the better option. cooked food kills. cooked food aint neccessary. im contributing to global warming more than i need to. we are born to be raw. how can i call myself a vegan when im contributing to wheat, soy, mono crops that involve habitat destruction for so many animals. animals that can and do thrive in diverse organic fruit orchards. each time i eat or buy cooked food im making the future generations world more cooked...starving kids in africa dont need money for rice, they need to learn how that fruit and greens is all they need to thrive.''

meat could be
'spilling blood is not in alignment with my compassionate lifestyle. i see animals as my friend not food. i dont feel good when i hear the sound of breaking bones as a car hits a dog. i feel pain when i see animals in pain. why am i letting my social conditioning determine what animals i see as a pet and others as food? in china a hotdog is different to a hotdog at the football in western countries..why? SOCIAL PROGRAMMING! i program myself. i dont let tv, hype, fear or desperate lack attitudes force me to continue killing animals for food..'

if youve got chub to lose, anthony robbins recomends burning all your current clothes so you have only 1 outfit left...he says 'sell your car and buy a juicer!'...i like the dudes style.. i say give your clothes to salvos and by a bike powered blender attachment laugh
63  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Saturday 14 June, 2008
thats right..people can ask me anything!

being a successful healthy raw vegan aint just about what we shove in our gob..its a lifestyle thing..

im passionate about shifts in the way society lives, eats and thinks..
64  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Saturday 14 June, 2008
o2, i know olympic medalists and olympic qualifiers and olympic hopefuls...each ones champions in their sport. each one eats corn flakes for breakfast. would they do better on fruit? YES! do already spiritual people do better on a more spritually and environmentally conscious diet like raw vegan..YES! do pretty people become prettier? YES! so sick people become better..YES! is all forward motion. i dont see people for where they are at..i see people for where they can go!

we get others to believe in us, cos we believe in ourselves and in turn believe in others...

ivan put up some great points...

what is the best way?
of all the long term raw vegans i know and recomend. EACH one started as a vegan. animal rights conviction carries people thru the dark times that always come around when we are testing lifes boundries. dark times will come. industry hype or social paranoia will have us believing our doubts and doubting our beliefs. having vegan conviction will carry us thru times when others will fold.

so i reckon raw vegan is an extension of veganism. vegan is so freak'n easy. its a no brainer, i mean nobody sane sees a washed up squid or catfish on the beach and thinks 'me has got some free grub!' nobody is salivating over watching a cow get its mastitis pus irritated udders milked..as its calf screams next door in the 24hr darkness ensureed veal shed..so its easy once we become compassionate to animal welfare to go vegan. but raw i feel is a different story..

 going raw is more personal. you have many addictions to overcome. there aint many raw vegans humans out there so some might choose to feel isolated and use this as an excuse to go backwards. we must learn how to select, obtain and store fruits to eat today or ripen for next week.  we need to learn how to eat more! lol! which is a paradigm shift in a society that tells us to 'eat less'.. ie we need to eat more volume food wise cos fruit and veg are mostly water...ie you gotta 'get more bites' in a day..thats a lot of chomp'n. but hey, i get to eat more of my fav foods? yep im into that!

how did i do it?
well i was riding radelaide to perth accross the nullabor plain. it was late at night and i saw a flash on the road up ahead. but before i could stop and question, an alien like figure was running along beside me. it clapped its hands and thats the last thing i could remember. it was about 8ft tall and had feet like dragonfruit. when i woke up all my muesli bars had been replaced by fruit. my canned aspargus replaced by raw asparagus and i was told my life purpose was to go raw and spread the raw gospbel. so thats why im here today. my name is harley and this is my first time at durian addicts anonymous, thanks for listening..


so after being kidnapped by aliens, whom gave me the motivation to pursue and eventually attain 100% rawness. i was a vegan for a few years. i ate fruit for breakfast everyday. inspired by that book 'fit for life' i even did raw weeks before races or anytime i wanted to 'do better and live more'. but i still didnt know how much fruit to eat to stay raw and tofu burgers and rice and pasta dishes found there way back on the table..

 then one day i looked in the mirror i said 'cooked food is no longer an option..its just gotta be raw!'. and i swapped vegan choc mudcake for raw vegan choc mudcake, vegan pizza for raw vegan pizza..all the while eating a lot of fruit..but not enough for my lifestyle.

then at sports camp with the dougster i eventually stopped and payed attention to what i needed to do to get the results i wanted. i decided to take more responsibility in my life. and ever since then its been a constant improving playground...

i really enjoy talking to newbies, long timers, people whom go back and forth, people whom fast etc. and time and time again we see the same problems arising from the same causes..all of which are so simple to fix..
65  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Friday 13 June, 2008
yep i was wrong..transport and delivery is the same thing..i meant to type, 'uptake, transport and absorption...' good to see someone check'n the details..

marathon runners say 'a running race doesnt start till after 30km..'

sprinters say 'marathon runners are so slow we have to wait hours for them to finish'..

i  choose answer 'e'. every human goes raw and joins the trillions of other raw fooders on the earth!
for me its like asking 'what is better, violent drunks only get violent 60% of the time..?'

lets get real and get drugs, alcohol, cooked food etc off the planet.
only when the animals sleep in peace will we sleep in peace..as we are what we eat..
66  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Thursday 12 June, 2008
So, Harley, how do you know that you have had enough?
that last photo would answer that one..but seriously ive had enough when fruit just doesnt look appealing to me..and then i leave it a few hours before going to bed.


How can you tell that you haven't had  too much?
i can eat fruit too fast and get 'melon belly' ie an ache for 10 minutes. if i ate a mono meal as a low fat raw vegan and had pain in my stomach, and i knew i had been doing proper food combining AND i was eating slow and chewing my food well, then i could say i had eaten too much fruit...but it hasnt happend. sure ive eaten too much fruit on a DRY system where i was better off drinking BEFORE eating..but i chose to put sugar into a dry system and reaped the negative consquences of that..



How do you decide when to stop or start eating?
when i desire something sweet its time for sugar. when i desire something fatty i havent had enough sugar, when i desire something salty its time for greens..when i need my food 'prepped nicely' im not really hungry...



Do you ever calculate the calories and then decide to start/stop eating?
yes, i calculate in a race or post race or pre race. i make little maths in my head and make sure my body is getting the carbs it needs. only when i eat the carbs i need do i get sufficient amino acids etc. i never stop eating cos ive gone over maths wise. i never walk away from a meal cos ive had too many calories..cos with my lifestyle more calories than i need will equate to fat gain which i can use when im in times of hard to find fruit availibility ie fasting on an airplane or riding outback.

 yet, i no longer 'stuff' food in. sure i inhale or guzzle, but only to how much by body comfortably desires.  last night i was throwing durian in the bushes. im happy to share my food with nature rather than eat more than my body desires or put it in a fridge for it to get stale..

when it comes to eating competitions i will only do speed eating. or i would do volume if it was against a small eater. cos i can comfortably, when hungry, eat 30-35 large bananas in a sitting. and i KNOW i could do over 50. maybe 60. but im not gonna find out. thats too much food in one hit. better off eating it in 3 meals over the course of a day or whatever fits our schedule. i watch them hotdog eating champs on you tube whom do over 60 hot dogs. and i say 'yeah i could down 60 bananas in a world where there is no consquences.'

i dont eat on the run. even in a race i take time to chew my food properly. even if your holding that chunk of banana in your mouth cos the hammer just got dropped and no way you can swallow anything for another 5km whilst your breathing thru your eyeballs..



How often do you eat because your calculations tell you to eat?
i always eat before im 'hungry'. if im really hungry then my body is close to switching over to mostly fat metabolism. for an athlete this means decrease power. for a sedentary person this means they will be scared to exercise..hence the remote control, car dependant society..



Or, do you always only follow the hunger?
i rarely wait for true hunger. as it means ive almost depleted my carb stores. ie muscle, liver, blood glycogen and my body has to switch to fat metabolism. ie ketosis. that is why people fasting have so little energy. that is why people on high fat diet have less energy than the same person on a high carb diet. in feb this year i did a 140km ride with a mate. i didnt plan to be riding that fast. it was a fun ride. we overtook over a 1000cyclists. my mate was pepped up on something and riding like a diesel. so i just sat behind him and we cranked along. i could feel the 'bonk' coming from an hour out. he had food and i didnt. then it hit me up this steep climb. my vision got blurry and i couldnt keep up the wattage.i told my mate i will be right and will see him at the finish line. all of a sudden i was getting passed by guys with beer guts...i just had to laugh and make it to the finish line. i got some watermelon into me and was ok. but yeah, it was an out of body experience..just like armstrong in the 2000 tdf. when he forgot to eat up the penultimate climb and lost mega time.
 i ate enough that morning to ride at the pace i set. but when i tried to go harder on less fuel..i knew i would crack at some stage. i wasnt ever scared. as ive ran out of glycogen many a time on the bike and runnning marathons etc. but runnig out of water..that really dangerous! something i avoid at all costs. i havent been thirsty since dec 2006. when it was over 40c and i did a 220km day out past wilcannia...



Can you really feel the true hunger or have you just heard/read about it?
yes i can feel true hunger. your eyeing off green bananas, you have a euphoric feeling in your body in your throat and mouth. your smell becomes hyper. you can not stop thinking about fruits. cooked food starts to smell better than the slop it really is. you dont care if you dropped your melon slice in the sand...you just need food now!
 
ive burnt over 17 000cals in a day..i know what hunger is. as an endurance athlete spending time on podiums after races, you gotta get in touch with what hunger is and how to avoid it. ride across the nullabor doing 200km a day..adelaide to perth solo in 15 days..you run out of food sometimes and salt bush looks tasty..

for me hunger is any fruit. hunger for me is when i eat grass. (have done that for dinner out bush once) for me appetite is something specific. ie 'oh im not sure what i feel like? lets have a look in the pantry, oh what your eating looks good, could i try a piece? no that soesnt taste good, let me have a read of the menu..



How do you distinguish it from the feeling of thirst?
thirst is felt in the mouth also. i know when im needing more water. my mouth feels warmer and if i shake my head and my brain hurts then im dehydrated. it can be a dry day on the bike and im hyper hydrated but i still need to sip water to keep my mouth wet from the heavy breathing intense exercise requires.

i always drink BEFORE i eat. im NEVER thirsty after a meal. when i was it was for 2 reasons. i was eating toxic thnigs and or i didnt hydrate before my meal. so now im asking my body to process foods with less liquids to aid nutrient uptake, delivery and transport...

society is massively cooked and massively dehydrated..

67  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Thursday 12 June, 2008
some recent shots of durian safari 2008!

vegan darrick earning dinner..



selecting dinner


transporting dinner


preparing dinner


after dinner..jk..

68  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Thursday 12 June, 2008
' get enough calories by eating enough fruit'..thats what im saying.

i cant answer nor do i understand the exact science behind those questions rg. some study the roots of a durian tree..im too busy eating the fruits!

on f1 having a higher body fat than doug 20ish years his senior? is it the salt fluid retention or is it something else? i dont know f1 personally and his lifestyle is elusive. who knows?

on fat burning..yes i have become super efficient. just as any trained endurance athlete is. but i still need sugar to let the body to burn the fat into sugar for fuel...ie i have to supply kindling (fruit) for the body to keep the fire stoked..

lets all remember that the original motivation for me to get into this calorie debate was to make people more conscious on ensuring THEY ARE GETTING ENOUGH to meet their daily and future needs...

cos as we have seen, when people undereat on the good stuff, they overeat on the less than good stuff..
69  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Thursday 12 June, 2008
was it the low calorie the okinawans ate or was it there relatively stress free lifestyle, quality produce, low fat, low animal products, community and connection with the land that attributed to the lengthy lifespans?

my body turns off the hunger switch. like tonight. and the night before. free fruit. as much as i want. but i know there is always tommorrow. no need to eat all i can. just all i care for. my body is highly tuned cos im giving it food closest to nature as possible. even the fruit we are eating in this village are all grown in a 30km radius. so when we listen to nature more, nature listens to us more. we end up getting what we want. you want optimum digestion? its there. you want more control of your emotions regarding eating, instead of our emotions controlling our eating? its there. just have to tap into natures plan. too easy.

i have no big races coming up in the next 2 months. so im not counting each piece of fruit im eating to make sure im eating enough. i have fruit on hand so easy here. i cant run out. so i can be more lax with my fruit organisation as i have 10+varieties of local ripe fruit within 1km radius of me anywhere along this thai/cambodian border.

the more i train, the more my body asks for more to fuel the raw train...

i highly recomend the profile section on www.veganbodybuilding.com as it shows the diversity in opinions of what vegans define as a 'healthy diet'...you think i cause contro' on here..man my cooked vegans mates know how to white knuckle debate! lol!

well after all this, im glad we have come to the conclusion that a raw vegan diet supplies too much nutrition and we need to head towards breatharianism! lol!  laugh

ps: what you call a breatharian that smokes?
a cooked breatharian! lol!
70  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Fitness & Health / Re: Harley's Fitness Advice and Stories... on: Wednesday 11 June, 2008
we are getting more free durian than we can eat. the locals are piling on the spikies to keep us nourished. kg's of rambutan, mangosteen and duku just keep flow'n. but  you can only eat so much calories in a day. we have to ride extra miles just to keep our hosts happy we are eating enough. they are concerned about our fruit lifestyle and make sure their is WAY more fruit than us 5 can guzzle. so please, come over and help us down the durian and co. its a spiky job, but someones gotta do it..

this arvo i went on a ride with 50 thai cyclists. couple of regional champs i was told. i felt a little intimidated but then my true self kick'd in and 'i said id rip the legs off em!'. after a couple of hours we hit the last bit of large highway. then its was a 10km time trial of who could hang on behind the motorbike that was acting as a pacer. i put myself in the hurt box and set a goal of snapping my bike in half with the power i was generating. i didnt break my bike but dropped all but 1 guy. from 50 down to 2 of us...then i attacked once more and passed him and took out the city limit sprint. all this with 'go vegan' written across the ass of my cycling shorts.. what a great feeling to kick butt and spread a health message!

i aint no science buff. i let my legs do the talk'n...if in doubt, come for a ride, then youll find out..
71  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Wednesday 11 June, 2008
tim is not low cal. brendan is not low cal by the sounds of him eating half a jar of oil in a day..thats alone over 3000cals depending on the size of the jar. endurance athletes are reknown for their caloric intake. tim is not an endurance runner. most of his races are under an hour.  if it were true he ate low cal, then id like to see him run a marathon at the speed he should be able too.

i dont have all the answers rg, but i have all the directions of which way to head...i cant answer specific things like how gravity works..but i just follow it. same with calories. i dont know exactly why doug or darrick cook is more ripped than f1 but eat up to 20 times the calories f1 suppsosedly eats.

anyone know someone whom has taken anti depressant meds etc. seen how many pounds of puff that put on? exactly. the bodies solution to pollution is dilution. eat salt and your body is gonna store fluids to dilute the stuff. doesnt make us more hydrated. cos if it did then people would be giving me hydration advice as i cycled along...

how do i stop and start eating? depends on what i have on that day or if im eating for a 24 hour race on the weekend. if im just gonna be talking all day to people, i wont eat much. just a 500cal serve of juicy fruit in the morn and go all day on that. but if im riding all day, then its gonna be 1000-2000cals per meal. and as many as i feel i need of them. i make sure the evening meal is completed and im not thinking about anything sweet at all. if i finish my salad and want something sweet, then i didnt eat enough fruit before my salad. if more than 2 avocado a week is calling my name, i havent eaten enough sweet fruit....

im never in doubt about eating too much carb calories for my lifestyle. its not possible! cos my menu is so simple and contains no excitotoxins like salt, chili, garlic, spices, onion etc you are letting your body do the talking. and cos im using my body so much for transport, you just gotta keep the tank topped up or your not going to be thriving. and eating more than 10% of fat over the course of a year comprises my physical health and performance more than i like the taste of in season, inshell nuts or avo.

so i start eating according to my days routine which can vary massively. but i always eat a breakfast meal of at least 500cal up to 2000cals or more to tie me over till lunch or dinner. i eat that meal AFTER going for a run or before going for a couple of hours on the bike. but if my morning workout is under 1hr then i eat AFTER it. always drinking BEFORE eating and training..

after years and years on the bike i get a feel for how much i need. my legs do a lot of the talking. my ability to smash over a large gear up a steep climb or to punch out a high wattage into cross winds is dependent on my available glycogen stores. 'when the carbs run out, the lights go out'...as they say in bike racing..

but after saying all this, maybe im undereating? maybe id be able to go further if i started eating 6000 cals a day. instead of averaging 3500 over the course of a year. but to consume 6000cals from fresh fruit, id have to be super organised. well not in thailand cos there is fruit easy to get most places. but in a meat and wheat country like australia..heck it would be a full time job to eat healthy. but it already is. so that means id have to do overtime... but im not sure if im ready for that yet!

what human potential is yet to be discovered...its infinite.



72  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Tuesday 10 June, 2008
if the gorilla is so clean, then it would need less calorie no? lets just say i have provided the gorilla its exact food.

thats right durian is a fatty fruit. eat accordingly. water will drown you, drink accordingly.

the organic durian trees i ate from yesterday had chicken poop as a fertilizer. so i guess it could be considered the same as a meal of kfc. cos it had chicken, oil and salt... cool

why does brendan struggle with raw? he is top bloke and  a passionate vegan but a sure undereater. getting brendan to give up his cooked carbs is like taking the sole off his running shoes. when brendan learns how to eat enough and in the form of fruit. he will attain his goal of 100% raw vegan. until then he will associate guilt to eating sufficient amounts of fruit. ie: we live in a world that attaches guilt to eating volume. people see eating 6 bananas as the same as eating 6 chocolate bars...they focus on the volume instead of the caloric density or food quality.

what is that feeling we get in our tum? its indigestion and or the stomach finally emptying or groaning. cos we ate too much, we ate non human foods, we ate when we needed to drink first, we ate stressed, we ate too close to going to bed, we ate when we werent hungry or we ate combo abombo's. or dehydrates or salt....feel free to pick any one!
73  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Tuesday 10 June, 2008
2 mates that were at sports camp told me last week. 3 meals per day. just as camp routine provides.
richard is into salt water flushes no? you can fast someone on water and give em salt and they will gain fluid retention. for me its an 11kg difference personally. i havent had any salt for over 11 months. do not plan to either.

i dont know whom started the 2000cal minimum. maybe it was the same crew that started the 40 hour working week..getting us to work more than we need or eat more than we need. its working on both accounts. but what we have seen is that people need that at a minimum to succeed longterm if raw vegan is their choice. otherwise we just have more people going on a banana skin diet and i call it the 'tom billings effect' for those that know of tom and his website...he tried to do a version of caloric restriction, banana breatharianism in a large polluted city and when the eventual wall crashed upon him, he blamed raw vegan..some people gotta stretch out the truth till it snaps and then they have a 'valid' reason to justify their eventual complacency. just like me riding in front of a truck, getting hit and sharing with people why 'cycling just didnt work for me'...

there is a way to ride safe. there is a way to eat raw vegan...i have mates that ride bikes with no brakes and a fixed gear wheel. which means that you have to pedal even if your going around a corner. some even wear no helmet or one not even strapped up...lol!

i have mates that think they can hike on maccadamia butter and olive oil smoothies. and that drinking water is something you do when your thirsty! (if your thirsty, you waited far too long!) so you can see how cos people are into raw or cycling or whatever, we dont always agree. and its fine not to agree, as long as we dont become disagreeable.. laugh

eating till 80% full or whatever is a great idea. ive won eating comps. both official on tv and unofficial with mates. but i dont think id do a volume eating comp against a real good eater. cos eating that much aint good! eat what we care for, rather than all we can. but when we first go raw, eating more than 2 apples is a challenge for most cos they are so dehydrated from being cooked etc for so long. so they have to drink more water than is going to feel comfortable in the morning to set em selves up for the day. they will have to pack away the mono meal of fruit. force the stomach to expand to its natural size. which is funny, cos all the long term fruit bats i know have the flattest stomachs between meals. they eat the most in volume, but fruit is so high water content your just using that water up. but anything that is not super wet will sit in your stomach until the body can put some water to it. cos the body must turn everything we eat into a liquid solution for digestion to take place. thats why we see bloating so common in society today...and then people eat some fruit and it just gets worse. so its one or the other...cancer or ball room dancer.

i can eat 3000cals from these young thai coconuts here today. but i wont feel the satiation i will get from eating same amount of calories from any sweet fruit. same when i was cooked. i could eat and eat and wake up and eat more and still always trying to get something 'sweet and juicy' . i remember chewing up uncle tobies apricot muesli bars with a swig of water in my mouth just to try and replicate 'sweet and juicy' but back then i didnt know i just needed to eat sufficient fruit and all my physiological carb needs would be met...no more opening the fridge for ice cream after a massive meal. heck, mum got me to eat stuff i didnt want to eat with the promise of 2 scoops of ice cream!

so we can eat raw but not get sufficent calories. and when we dont get sufficient calories, protein must start to come from some concentrated sources. just like that pelican that eats the pigeon on you tube...or the cow that eats the baby duck..i feel both animals were starved of their natural diet and went haywire. just like humans will do. its survival!

people on low cal or high fat diets always go back to cooked carbs and or animal products to met caloric needs. sure we have those 'unreachable health leaders' that just keep us guess'n. but i dont include people that arent open to speak. like hrm or jashmusheen..people assume they dont eat calories..but hrm told me face to face he had a ham sandwich and a coffee the day before i talked to him.

i can eat green fruit and no get sugar needs met. so i will be hungry till my body gets the fuel it needs. this week ive had a recovery week. my hunger is so low. im eating about half of the cals id eat in a 'normal' week. so yeah, eat if your hungry and if your not...but its tak'n me a lot of miles on the bike and a lot of trial and error and learning from my own mistakes and other peoples. so i know how much i need. most people i talk do dont. world class cyclists ive talked to do. they all know basic calories in the foods they eat. lance armstrong took it one step further and started weighing each meal with a digital scale..every calorie was counted for..not too much, not too little..just enough! and thats a pretty extreme thing to do and he got extreme results with that..ie 7 tours de france wins in a row..so we can take it as far as we want. just keep it fun.

if it were possible to go long term on a low calorie diet (under 2000cals) then the person would not be known for their regular physical activity. i mean you wont see matt,tonya z,fred or gabriel doing a marathon tommorrow. and they dont have to. but people with beer guts run marathons, not fast ones but they complete it. where am i going with this? give me anyone and i will get better results than what they are getting now. its pretty easy. but very hard for most individuals cos they dont want it that much. and thats fine. sure we have claims of people fasting and then going out and doing a marathon. but we all know it would have been a faster one if they gave the body the things it needed...ive ran up and down the highest peak in central america. on 5 mangoes. it was 50km return trip solo. the only food i had that day was 5 mangoes for breakfast. water came from the streams on the run. so  i was hydrated for sure. but when my body switched to fat metabolism(body turns fat into sugar to feed the cells) i was near collapsing. it was after 4.5 hours uphill. at 3400m i did collapse into some bushes next to me. i slapped myself in the face and made the summit and came good again. the whole effort took 8.5 hours. had i wanted to shave at least 2 hours off that time, id taken some fruit with me..at least 50g of carbs per hour. but i knew that day id explode and it was a bit of a mission for me to see how far i could go and what it would feel like...

oh and those monkeys? what are they feeding them? raw, cooked, their natural diet, organic, etc? its like giving stranded sailors half cups of salt water instead of full cups....but its just distraction from what they should be doing. drinking fresh water. just like these studies that say 'a little bit of ice cream is ok. half a pizza is better than a whole one..everything in moderation..especially your calories. it helps people justify their health damaging behaviour. and yeah it works. but not as good as doing what nature intended. eating your biological diet. eating according to the seasons etc...

how do i decide when to start and stop eating for the day?
when im doing some miles i wake up hungry. and lets remember hunger aint felt in the stomach..its felt in the throat. a gentle feeling. so i wake up hungry, but not like a 'km 38 in a marathon hitting the wall hungry' its a 'i need some sugar to kick start the active day i have everyday'. i eat 2-5 meals a day. depending on my activity level.  2000 - 6000 calories a day depending on whats happening.
i have a basic routine i follow. it takes me a certain amount of fuel to find my food, carry it some where and then carry that compost to a suitable area. so i have to eat more food cos i use a bike, feet and compost stuff. in a city i can carry kg of fruit skin finding a stash spot instead of putting in a bin for it to add to global warming.

i dont know anyone that burns more calories than i do, just in pursuit of a more eco friendly lifestyle. forget the gym, eat green and live it!
74  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Tuesday 10 June, 2008
i can put on 10lbs in a week..just give me salt.

to answer those questions in your format rg:

1 no, approx 1.5 litres per meal.
2 yes
3 yes
4 yes
5 its based on getting approx 400grams of carbs per day. its what is recomend for sedentary folk...
6 if low calorie works then how come your not 100% raw vegan?

today i ate durian and mangosteen direct from the tree. both trees were over 100 years old the farm hand told me. pretty special stuff. but what is going to happen to these trees? they are gonna get bulldozed eventually just like most of australia and north americas trees to provide land for grain and livestock. ive been coming to thailand for the last 4 years. and the sweep of western influence and its associated consumer lifestyle is rampant. people offer plastic bags for plastic bags. having a zero plastic bag policy for this trip to thailand and having left my fruit bag behind tonight i used my bed sheet to carry my dinner durians from the dealer.

 so the question aint 'what are you gonna do when the such and such happens..' the question is WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PREVENT IT HAPPENING? are we getting our food from trees or supporting industries that chop trees down? we still eating animal products? as they are number 1 contributor of human caused global warming. cooking food and its production are  up there too.

we are all hybrids. depending on what theory of creation we buy into. what other food are we going to get our calories from, save the planet and create an oasis to live in? exactly. if we are that clean that hybrid fruit is a health concern, then we are ready to live on mars.

gm crops are already here. i buy cert organic each chance i get. pity society worships money more than health...we put plastic notes, metal coins and digits on the screen in front of our own health and the next generations.

and heres a fact i learnt today..'humans hydrochloric acid is too dilute to digest animal products. true carnivores have over 10 times the hydrochloric acid concentration..' but to me that still doesnt mean much. what matters is that i found watching roosters and chickens entertaining today whilst i inhaled organic monthong durian on the farm today. turn the tables and i was inhaling chickens and roosters whilst watching durians...

what happens if i get a gorilla from rwanda and cage it. i feed it 10% of its usual calories...what you think is gonna happen to this gorilla? cos that is what some crew are promoting..you eat 10% or less of your usual calories...would anyone let me take one of their children away for a year and feed em 10% of their normal calories? of course not.
when it comes to diet, if you couldnt give it to a baby, then why give it to an adult? anyone recomending babies get fed on 20calories a day?

sometimes you just gotta have a close mind. just like the final climb or lap in a bike race. the final km in a marathon when your feet are bloody and legs feeling like your running along a road of superglue. your mind is screaming to stop, stop, STOP! but youve decided that stopping is not an option. that winners never quit, quiters never win.. you gotta close out the crapola of society and charge your path. pull out your earphones just enough to get some more positive vibes to propel the intensity trail.

ive had a doctor tell me i could lose my leg if i dont get a antibiotic shot ( i didnt and i was fine), ive had doctors tell me that my asthma is here to stay,(its gone), ive had people tell me that chronic fatigue is not fully understood ( it is and mine is gone)...ive had meat munchers tell me that vegan is bad, ive had vegans tell me that raw vegan is crazy, ive had raw vegans tell me that low fat raw vegan is pshyco... all the while my body just keeps telling me to push harder. go farther and reach more people.

listen to your body folks...attack the day so that all the uneccessary just falls away.
75  PleasureTalk - The Discussion Area / RAW Chat / Re: Harley Says.... on: Monday 09 June, 2008
carbs, protein, fats ratio for anyone is optimum over the course of a year at under 10% from fat. protein is best under 10%. and the body can run best on carbs over 80%.. from 5 years old to 105 years old..

*some people believe all we need is found in raw plant foods. some people dont. dave is always up to some new product, theory etc. best ask him what his latest gig is. he is pretty open about most things he does. and contactable by email. after all, if your writing books on giving guidlines for important things in peoples lives, then you must dedicate a part of your time to answering any questions your material will generate. anyone not answering serious questions is to be seriously questioned...

*keep eating our emotions till they are all gone...thats the motivation for most. cos its impossible to digest a heavy meal and emote at the same time. when we eat the mono meal, we give up the addiction to variety. soon 2 ingredients in a salad become all we need. maybe 3. then we know we are crank'n up the life intensity.

 if we cant live on simple foods, then we know we are trying to stuff things down. why? thats an individual question each person must answer. overeating is a sure killer. eat what you need. no more no less. eat the mono meal. when your done, your done. variety always leads to overeating. imagine the resturant that only serves one ingredient? bankrupt before it even opens...society is addicted to massive daily variety. 30 minute tv shows, 13 second tv adds, different adds on different bus shelters, different hair colour, different fashion colours for the time of day or day of the week or month of the year or year of the decade or decade of your life or end of your life! variety, variety, consume, consume....i was a big fan of all you can eat buffets. what is there attraction? VARIETY!

optimum digestion is achieved when we aim for simplicity at mealtime, and variety over the course of a year.variety in a day or meal time leads to  poor digestion which leads to overeating cos the body aint absorbing the amino acids, fats, carbs etc properly. hydration is also affected and its associated nutritional benefits, hence the viscious cycle continues..but to stop it we just have to step into another more positive cycle. cos we are either building our health, or destroying it with each bite..

when we decide numbing is no longer an option and we are going to start feeling, the universe, god, allah etc will reward us for our discipline..as 'every disciplined effort is met with multiple reward! but what if we never knew this? we would just go around bust'n our teeth on painful meals day in day out. so now we know! its time to grow! step up to the mono meal flow!

nobody recomends a higher percentage of greens than the dougster.
talk about hybrid fruit demineralising is great product endorsement if one sells green powders...
thats like saying eating raw is flawed and you need a man made supplement...bit like saying cooked food is better than raw...

again i will say, if anyones goal is raw veganism, then take advice from longterm raw vegans keep'n it real....
ie: if your goal is to build a straw bale house...then take advice from someone doing it..not some dude wearing a suit with blueprints for a concrete yard mansion with a 15ft security fence and guard dogs...telling you straw bale houses are for extremo hippies with housing disorders..
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