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i just did nutridiary.com and thus far today my calorie in take is 1800 and my breakdown is 77 carb 11 protein 12 fat
daily quota 4124 cals and used 1400 cals in exercise
i've decided no more than one banana per smoothie as it seems to sit heavy, however when i eat nanas they don't pose any problem
trained back and biceps today, hard! only had time for 30 mins of squash today as we got there late and was closing..
my regular routine is; tues--chest and triceps followed by 1hr squash fri --shoulders (and i'm doing a light leg workout at the moment as i find the squash and a heavy leg workout were a bit too much for my knees and i choose squash over heavy leg workout and then theres no problem with knees, however as i get lighter i will go back heavy, ya gotta make adjustments as ya go) followed by 1hour squash sun--back and biceps followed by 1hour of squash
i have found i'm not very hungry this afternoon/night wonder if this is this common 811 thing wonder what to do to stimulate appetite.
the banana and celery kinda sat at the front of my stomach for a few hours, maybe i'd had too many bananas that yesterday.. cutting your weights to 3 sessions a week will be more beneficial i believe, i cut back to 3 times a week about 6 weeks ago and haven't looked back..
a friend of mine who's natural mr australia does his whole body over nine days, one body part at a time, says cause he's 44 needs the recovery, i do my whole body over 7 days works good for me but its probably cause i'm raw and he's not that i'm fully recovered in a week...
food eaten today... breakfast-- 5 bananas half of workout smoothie- 5 tablespoons of bee pollen, 1/2 teaspoon of maca, handfull of spinach, punnet of raspberries and a nana
consumed the other half about 600mls throughout workout....and my immediate post workout food 2 bananas... thats about 1100 cals up to this point..
had a big salad and a few nanas for lunch 500 cals plus half an avo 150 cals
after i just woke i had 3 nectarines and a big glass of fresh tropical on the balcony, rainwater.... 210 cals
7 nana and 4 celery smoothie(took me about an hour to drink) 900 cals
rgg, i don't wanna lose any muscle but i do wanna lose fat, so when you say a bit low, what would be ideal and are you basing it on 80 10 10 or personal experience?
One mistake I'm making is trying to add weight to my training too fast....so Now I'm gonna forget that as well (though still record it of course) and just concentrate on perfect excercise form.
Another thing I'm planning on finally/seriously doing this year is ramping up my raw food percentage...I've only really "played" with raw food as a lifestyle so far....though I'm firmly convinced that at the very least a high raw food intake is the way to go.
Should be an interesting year all round....
If someone had said to me last year that in 2009 you would try 811 I'd have lost a lot of money taking bets....
yeah don't add weight too fast master each heavy weight incrementally, my training partner always wants to go up to fast and then gets little niggling injurys..
do it john, with regard to the raw food intake, i've done it without any guilt along the way and not worried if i've eaten cooked or whatever and have naturally increased every month to a stage where i ate some bread a month ago and could taste the preservatives, was the worst mouthful of food i'd ever eaten, was a particularly poor bread once i'd looked at the packaging. i think the way to focus on raw is to go high raw rather than 100% as high is easily achievable and 100% not and when people eat other foods they feel like they failed which is not good mentally as is evident on this forum.. i'm pretty relaxed towards food and it has made it easy to get to 100%. if all there was to eat was cooked i'd eat it(cause if i'm hungry i'm eating) but if there is live food around and i've got the choice i'm eating live from now on...
so if i eat extra 800 cals on training days would that be the go?
so 3360 non training days and 4160 training days?
just woke up, fell asleep watching heavyweight boxing fight so i might go back to sleep to something more peaceful, maybe a peter ragnar lecture...
had a big salad and a few nanas for lunch, cause my mangos aren't ready yet darn it..i was looking forward to those, i need a rotation on my fruit so i don't runnout and always have to resort to nanas..
after i just woke i had 3 nectarines and a big glass of fresh tropical on the balcony, rainwater....
thats a good point patchworkkitten, maths was never my strong point either..
once i've woken from my slumber i'll take a look at that.. its pretty cool to not have to eat quite as much thats for sure.
not read any of those books john, but my friend who told me about the 6 rep thing probably has as he's an avid reader in this field.. i read enough already so when i was told about low rep theory i tried it practically and proved it to myself practically..
breakfast-- 5 bananas half of workout smoothie- 5 tablespoons of bee pollen, 1/2 teaspoon of maca, handfull of spinach, punnet of raspberries and a nana
i'm going to the gym now so will consume the other half about 600mls throughout workout....and my immediate post workout food will be 2 bananas... thats about 1100 cals up to this point..
i just rang my training partner and he needs another half hour to pass his morning constitutional, he eats 5 meals a day of mainly animal protein and is constantly constipated. funny thing is he's not quite as strong as me and has a leverage advantage and i'd say i've packed on more muscle than him since we started training together..we both have muscle memory from training before and he has an anabolic advantage as he's type 1 and takes insulin.. i really wanna step it up and get this diet right and take off to show him another way..i gave him a copy of raw 30 days to cure diabeties(the actual name of the doco escapes me) and he said he'd consider it when he gets old..
it was four in the morning but i was close below is an excerpt from doug grahams book.....
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page 169 in 80 10 10
"A large man of 280 lbs, who is fit and not fat, who participates in sports and works in construction, would require roughly 2800 calories for basal metabolism. add to that the 1500 calories he expends at work each day and the 400 he needs for his daily sports training. this active man needs to eat sufficient food to supply him with approximately 6,250 calories per day." doug graham
the above is pretty close to me the main difference are i don't work in construction and i don't train sports daily.. i train 3 times aweek in the gym for 45-50mins and followed by 1 hour of squash and a 15min swim so what would that be..
i could probably cut back on the 1500 for work and just eat more on training days but i'd still be in the 5000 range?
i said(at 4am)--- reading the book i think i need like 6000 calories, jeze that means i'm undereating wildly... i haven't worked out how many calories i was eating before so i'm a bit confused... so i'm guessing 6 kilos of fruit and a couple of avos etc, blimey thats a lota food, i really will be a gorilla.
sheryl said-- 6000 calories? Are you exercising all day long??
wookie said-- Maybe that's 6000 kilojoules... equals about 2200 kilocalories.
oxygen said--- 6000 is a lotta calories Les....just to give you a baseline comparison Royal Marine Commandos (in training) are fed 5000 calories/day over 4 meals to cope with their training....and they are basically training all day...
My understanding is your only training 3 times a week??
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