Tank water at home
Town water at work

While some water may be better than others any is better than none when you need it.
I gave up trying to choose the best after reading some 'expert' saying the only truly useful water was ancient mineralised bore water.

>what you previously learned about natural hygiene.

It was just information, I didn't apply it, it was too big a leap from a SAD diet
I had to go through high fat raw first, ie eat anything as long as it's raw

>cals

not really eating anymore
but I feel fine and could benefit from loosing a few kg's

It's what you habitually do that is important, not the exception

Worrying about it will probably do more harm than the potato
if you don't add cream and condiments you'll probably wonder why you bothered

lots of exercise the last few days.

ice skating on friday
gardening both days on the w/e
started building raised garden beds

I need to up my calorie intake seriously
I can eat 1500 sitting at my desk job
but on the w/e I have better things to do so it drops to 1000

Agreed, I like being able to recall an obscure band of the early 80's
then track their entire career
up to a pudgy balding 40 y/o banging out his hits in seedy nightclubs

not that there is anything wrong with being 40 balding and pudgy

yes, but that's what I thought on high fat raw vegan

just for later reference
mass 74, BMI 23.1, body fat 22% !

I like what I've read so far
The first healthy 'system' I found was Natural Hygene and this book is just the modern face

The first change I applied was to cut down on fats
sure I've heard don't eat a lot of nuts, but I didn't really know what a lot meant
The chapter where he gives RV's a serve for their high fat diets was uncomfortable
although I wasn't as culpable as most mostly due to my laziness in preparing the treats
and my preference to not add dressing to salads

I can't expect miracles from a tweaked diet, I'm still working on less stress,
I have no plans to introduce vigorous exercise until I find a way I'll enjoy and keep doing it
and I'm not getting enough sleep and won't for the next two+ weeks due to 'le tour'

In the back of my mind is that it feels like almost everything I've ever heard or read on diet has been wrong so why would this be any different.

If I understand you,
I think for the purposes of keeping this forum on topic we have to

There are a lot of places where we can discuss the various problems facing us
if we tried to discuss all of them here we would lose focus

Going vegan is one of the better paths someone can take
and there are precious few places to find support

more later
but his shirt alone is reason enough to send the book back 

later:
I've seen as much negative comment as positive

My daughter saw me watching Doug on youtube, she said he reminded her of the creepy guy in Donnie Darko that preached self esteem but was a pedophile. I can see where she is coming from, he does look a little creepy, was passionate and was saying things she'd rather not hear. A few chapters into 811 she felt differently, that he was making some good arguments. She still thought the idea of a fruit diet was fancifal, even after I explained that was what i was now doing and had sort of been doing for some time.

Hi fp

I don't really know what a balanced raw diet should be
probably should be nearer 811 than what i was doing

munching on a pear ...

I find it hard on nutriday to find greens in their list
if someone could post a breakdown of a few, i could add them to my list, thanks
eg baby spinach, bok choy, english spinach, chinese brocoli

Not really, I use "recent posts" to catch up on messages
it doesn't filter this thread out

Harley is surely entertaining, but his insistence on perfection* can be discouraging

*my interpretation

hi neet and joss

I'm calculating my current % at nutriday
when they give a caloric requirement of 2000 is that just a default

todays intake gives 1700 and that was boosted by a handful of macadamias when i saw how low it was
20g of nuts pushed the fat from single digits to 20+%  !

my days of 100g of nuts a day are over

ok, I was used to another technical board that set the expiry at 7 days
but different rules for different forums