Thank you No Frontiers. You put it far better than I could have done. That's exactly what I meant.

Lucky you - living on an Organic farm. What an experience! Enjoy your travels...

Thank you Love Spirit. We each must do what we feel is best for ourselves at the current time.

The spiritual side of raw eating is so interesting. I came to the diet from a health perspective but awakened spiritually in the process. Perhaps they should label all our fruit and veg with warnings - "warning: the comsumption of this food may awaken you spiritually and change your life forever"!

Jenny

Hi No Frontiers. If you don't already have it, you might find Victoria Boutenko's Green For Life book useful. Fibre is a very important component of greens too.

I feel at my best when I have green smotthies all day - made from 50% greens and 50% fruit. (this equates to the Chimpanzee diet and Dr D's 2% to 5% greens by calories).
 
I am thriving on 80/10/10 (2 1/2 years now) but only since getting the help from enzymes, mineral supplements and alternative medicine as well.

I think what a lot of people don't realise is that if one has been eating less than optimally for X years (30+ years in my case) then the body would have been significantly affected by this. To me, this means that the nutrition in raw foods may not be enough to replenish our depleted stocks quickly enough. And, because we are more in tune with our bodies (which are now more sensitive) we notice these deficiencies more than before.

I would also argue that the nutrition in raw foods may not be enough to sustain us any more. For example, we know that conventional produce has far less nutirition in it than organic produce. But I would also hazard a guess that organic produce you buy these days is less nutritious than what their wild counterparts would have been - simply because the soil has been depeleted over many, many years - this takes ages to recover from.

On top of this, there was an astounding figure I heard some time back which was that humans have over 5,000 times the level of stress we had as little as 50 years ago. What quantity of minerals (e.g. magesium, calcium) would we need to get from our greens to recover the amount lost due to these sorts of levels of stress I wonder...

I don't believe there is an easy answer. I think we can try and get as close as we can to our original BARF diet, but it is possible that this may not be enough in this day and age given where we have come from and what we have already done to our bodies and to the Earth...

My 2 bobs worth...

I was still very sick when I started doing 80/10/10 (I'd been doing it for a year by then), until I started taking digestive enzymes and my health improved over night. The many years of wheat and animal products really ruined my digestive system and I couldn't even absord nutrients on the best diet of fruit and greens (I am gluten and lactose intolerant).

Secondly, I am very mineral deficient and find that if I don't have greens by noon, I'm craving salt and fat like crazy.

Maybe you could try getting more greens in before dinner?

My understanding is that the greens are really where we get our minerals from, and if you're not eating enough greens either directly or indirectly (through animal products) then it would make sense that this would affect your health/immune system...  My thoughts only....

Hi Eve,

We've been buying them in all the different colours and they do look good don't they?

We like using the green bottle to make "wine" with raw juices to take to dinner parties. It does look authentic!

Jenny

Thanks Sheryl. I agree about the plastic issue. I definitely wanted to steer clear of plastic. The klean kanteen's are stainless steel and apparently recyclable...

We have some of those glass water bottles with stoppers and they are great at home but they tend to leak a bit if put on their side ...  Food for thought though.

Hi everyone!

I was wondering if anyone can share their experience/knowledge regarding "safe" water bottles - bottles which don't leach chemicals into the water?

I have found a brand called "klean kanteen" but wanted to find out what people think are the best brands or what features to look out for based on their own experience.

Thanks!

Jenny

I love that Miss Giggles!

We are awakening from our slumber. Excerpt from The Indigo to Crystal Transitional Crisis http://www.starchildglobal.com/: one of the signs of moving from indigo to crystal state of consciousness is "Obssessive anxieties about humans being destroyed (by pollution, lack of resources, aliens, technology etc). This is because multi-dimensional consciousness can access all levels of the group mind, including that part which holds the fears and anxieties about the survival of the species. Since the person is often concerned about their own survival, they tend to resonate with this part of the group mind or morphogenetic field."

I also found this article really useful (actually the whole site is)...
Moving Past and Through the Armageddon Scenarios towards Rebirthing the Earth...
http://www.starchildglobal.com/

Excerpt:
There are three questions that we [the Crystal Children] would like to pose and discuss with you:
1. Can you understand that these programs that you hold and fear are not inevitable "truths"? They are nothing more than THOUGHT FORMS that have gained power by being fed energy over many thousands of years.

2. Can you understand that these Thought Forms are running and controlling you?

3. Can you understand that you created these thought forms and that you can CHANGE them?

Hi bumblebee,

I also got the dizzy / spacey feeling early on eating high fruit.

I understand that it takes some time for the pancreas to restore itself after many years eating SAD diet. Also, green smoothies are great b/c it takes longer to digest greens and it will slow the release of sugar into the blood stream. Avoiding/limiting fats can also help. I also understand that low magnesium affects digestion (mine was virtually zero) and this too plays a part. Also digestive enzymes allowed me to digest my food much better. Now I have no problems, even drinking orange juice. G'luck with it! - it will most likely pass...

And now the truth starts to come out about GM approval in NSW...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gm-crop-advisers-accused-of-bias/2008/04/01/1206850910645.html

Also, I just found out that GM sugarcane soon to be a reality here. Just a heads up for those who drink sugarcane juice... Funny how this didn't seem to make it into the Australian news...

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/GM-sugarcane-trials-in-Brazil--Australia/290404/

Amazing!! That seems to fit nicely in with spiritual advancement/ascension where advancing humans supposedly vibrate at higher (presumably faster?) frequencies, where disease cannot manifest... And down the rabbit hole I go, again!

P.S. Congratulations on being 8 months raw! I have cured all my illnesses on a raw diet (with help of traditional medicine, as I was very sick).

Thanks Miss Giggles,

I actually watched all his clips on youtube. It was just what I needed that day.

Jenny

I have read in many different sources that humans are supposed to live for 120 years. ie. that is actually our "normal" life span.

I also read recently, now here's a mind bender, that humans used to live for 1000s of years on Earth but over time our minds programmed our bodies to believe that death is a normal occurence, and is indeed expected, so the body stops producing the human growth hormone. It kinda makes sense, because I have heard it said many times that there is no biological reason for the body to die - old cells are simply replaced as needed. Food for thought!!

Have a great day!

I've just read this fascinating article on the "Orb Phenomenon" and thought some on here might be interested.  I've also just been reading a book about the afterlife "What dreams may come" and about the Indigo and Cyrstal children. Here is the link and some extracts from the article...

"Tens of thousands of ordinary people  around the globe are reporting mysterious  spheres of light known as ORBS, which have started  appearing on their  digital  photographs. A few scientists  are  taking this phenomenon seriously and incredibly  claim to  have found  evidence of  beings from other dimensions.. "

The world’s first  conference  on  the Orbs  Phenomenon  recently  took place in  Sedona, Arizona -  where several  scientists  controversially stated  that  orbs,  spherical or circular objects that are appearing on digital pictures  -  demonstrate  good evidence of   ‘other worldly’ life forms.  Their conclusions, if correct,  could  have  huge  implications for the way we view our universe and our part in it.

Until now there has been a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that the spirit world exists, and I believe it’s no longer anecdotal as thanks to digital technology we can now see it. We are dealing with a non-physical- albeit real - phenomena’.

Terri Caldwell, a healer from Belbroughton in Worcestershire who has been seeing orbs in  pictures for several years says ‘ To my mind the orbs are the spirit world simply going about their business, they are definitely attracted to locations where people  are learning or happy.  I believe, we are all spirits having a physical experience and when  we die  our energy field which carries all the information about us continues on. Orbs are certainly are not to be feared’

http://www.newsmonster.co.uk/paranormal-unexplained/mysterous-ghostly-orbs-perplex-researchers.html

Here is another link I've found really useful. There is a lot of information on the soul, spirituality, chakras, life after death etc...

http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/index.htm#The%20Bodies%20of%20Man%20and%20the%20Spheres%20of%20Existence

Enjoy!
Jenny