I'm with FM and Rudie, If it doesn't appeal at the time, don't eat it! Have you ever tried to force feed a child something that's "good" for them or give a pet something you think it "should" be eating? Good luck!!!! But when offered an array of food options they will choose what is right for them to consume.

And i've found I go through cycles where I really crave green salads or green smoothies and other times where I'm just a fruit bat. Like yesterday I brought home a fresh bunch of wider leaved rocket from work ( I have an organic food business...lucky me:)) and normally I can eat a few leaves of rocket mixed in with other greens in a salad with salad dressing....but I started on the rocket and didn't want to stop...I ate nearly the whole bunch I was enjoying it that much!!!!! So I say listen to your mouth/body and it'll guide you. Good luck Steve

Hi Sanghama,

My friend and I are very serious about wanting to buy HHC! I see how much good they have done for so many people and still have fond memories of many of the people I met when I worked there. I know Ron's heart is in the right place, and yes he struggles to communicate and connect with people. ANd that's why I see that with some changes and a slightly different vision the place could rock and be even better at getting the Raw word out there. Building a place where the raw community can feel at home and connected to the land that that supports our dietary choices...and a place to connect as a community to support each other and help new people learn and heal through raw.

And yes I have thought about approaching corporate sponsors as I know several wonderful businessmen who are into respecting our health and self-healing through diet, etc. Fingers crossed we find the business angel we're looking for.

I just wanted to see who else on here (in particular in the Gold Coast Area) was interested in being involved as we see how everyone has something different to bring a venture like HCC.

Hi Neet,

I'm enjoying reading of your progress and yet also know that it reminds me of the toxic load I'm still carrying and my dilema at present is how to clear myself out and have more energy and yet also respecting my baby's needs whilst I'm pregnant. I have great urgings to cleanse yet at 5 months pregnant am a little uncertain of how those toxins flowing out of my cells will affect my little one. A part of me believes that she will get the raw good stuff that I'm putting in via juices, fruit, and GS and that I will just feel the effects of the cleansing maybe a little more intensely than I normally would. But I want to feel vital ready for birthing and breastfeeding and mothering...not clogged and exhausted. And I have an instinctual feeling that she will actually get less of my toxins if I cleanse whilst she's in the womb than if I were to wait till she's out and cleanse whilst I'm breastfeeding and making her sole food source. Something tells me that her placenta will filter my blood and protect her better now, whereas if I'm clearing stuff into my breastmilk she'll have to deal with it. Sorry...got a bit side-tracked....lacking in sleep.

Which reminds me why I was posting on your thread...thanks for the inspiration to start respecting my bodily needs and for doing the ground work that can be tiring, restrictive and challenging, but that it's worth it for the improved health afterwards.

Keep up the self-love...coz as we know...it's better than the pain of living the old way!

Love Georgia xo

Hey Michelle,

Having had lots of enemas and colonics and done my fair share of fasting (water and juice one's) I just thought I'd share what my understanding is...and this is coming from someone who's initial reaction to being given an enema kit on my first day at Hippocrates Health Centre 7 years ago was...NOT ON YOUR LIFE!!!!THAT IS AN EXIT WHOLE ONLY BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you had spilled cooked fat on your sink from a saucepan you could pour some lemon juice from a cup and let it run over it as it travels down the sink (JUICE FAST) or you can pour some lemon juice over it whilst also flushing it with water to help wash it off (JUICE FAST AND ENEMA) or you can use the lemon juice and direct some water under pressure over the mess (JUICE FAST AND COLONIC IRRIGATION) or you can do all three of these things and also use a good scourer (JUICE FAST, COLONICS AND A FIBROUS CLEANSER LIKE PSYLLIUM).  They will all clean to a degree and the earlier one's will take longer to actually clean the scum/fat/plaque/cooked food/toxins off the sink, but if you want quicker results then go for the triple barrel shotgun!! Other's may have differing opinions. I used to say that having an enema or a colonic is unnatural...and then I realised that nearly everything I'd been pouring down my throat for most of my life had been unnatural and that maybe it was going to take some slightly unnatural assistance to get it all out so I could have a clean pallet to start with again. Clean bowel, cells, etc so that my body could actually use/utilise/digest all the new great nutrition I was feeding it.

Anyway, that's been my experience. I know it made a big difference for me and everytime I've strayed from natural eating and built up a dirty drain hole (pardon the analogy) I've found much energy come from a cleanse and some fibre and  enemas/colonics to assist the clearing out process.

Good luck with your journey

Love Georgia xo

Thanks for all your supportive replies

I knew that on this forum where people are making informed, personal and individualistic choices regarding their healtha nd eating habits there would be other women who would understand or would have already choasen to make similar choices around birthing. I birthed my first son naturally after a 52 hour labour...the last 5 of which were at the hospital becuase my son's dad freaked out and rang an ambulance when I wanted to birth at home unassisted. THis time my new partner is all for homebirthing and wants a lotus birth..as do I. And I'm confident to birth at home without a midwife, what's coming up for me at present is the realisation that I don't even really want him here!! I truly want to be ALONE with the baby so I cna focus on us and our journey of birthing together and not be distracted by anyone. And yet I know that he is so keen to be at the birth and to experience it with me.

This dance of balancing our individual needs/wants with those of being in relationship with others is coming up for me in a big way at present. My partner Martin, myself (5 months pregnant) and my almost 5 year old son from a previous relationship have all just moved in together and I'm finding myself really challenged on how to respect myself and my own body clock and biological urges (like when to sleep and eat and exercise) and my primal mothering instincts and how to be in relationship with a man who's own needs and biorythms and habits are so different to mine.

I'm confused as to how to meet our needs for self and at the same time how to meet the needs of a family/relationship. I had basically worked out how to be a mother and still have myself and now I have added a man and soon to be another child to this equation and feel like I'm floundering. The thought of parenting two children alone actually scares me less (and in many ways exhilerates and enlivens me) than the experience of how to mould my life with my partner. If you hadn't gathered, I'm pretty damn independent and confident...and I have seen and still see few examples around me in my community or our culture or others for that matter, where people have successfully mixed being in relationship, honouring self and nurturing a family.

I'd love to hear how other's have or are experienceing this or similar...

A place to hide the dirty dishes when people are coming over and I've been particularly slack and have a pile of washing up left undone!!

Hi Ladies,

I'm just wondering who else here has had a free or unassisted birth as this is what I am planning for the birth of Bhala at Easter next year. For anyone who doesn't know what it is, it means birthing at home without the presence of a midwife or obstetrician.

I have no urge to have people around me when I'm in labour and want to be alone or just with my partner masssaging and toning and doing nipple stimulation to help me dilate. I find with people around it's too arousing and distracting as I'm such a social person and also feel other's expectations on how I "should" labour. I just want top be left alone to tune into my body and the baby and dow what feels right.

Anyway, would love to hear from people who have birthed this way, are intending to birth this way, or those who are freaked out by the concept and feel the need to share their fears with me.

Thanks,
Georgia

I hope sparkles is all ok Pinky! I know I get a bit nervous if I don't feel Bhala wriggling and tickling inside on a regular basis. Take care and my thoughts are with you xo

1: Nectarines
2: Pineapple
3: Rockmelon (especially in a smoothie) YUMMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they're asking $2,950,000!

It's a lot but a lot can be made of the place also...it has so much untapped potential and is on a great piece of land.

Has anybody heard anything about Hippocrates Health Centre on the Gold Coast being for sale? I used to work their about 7 years ago and a fellow co-worker who I really respected has just emailed me to ask if I or anyone else I know would be interested in investing in it with him as he's really keen to buy and run it. I'm interested in being involved and I was wondering if anyone else here had any urgings or ideas? It could be made into such a great raw vegan health/healing retreat and education centre with a bit of money, energy and inspiration. I used to love the concept of working there...just not the reality of working for Ronald as I found him a very hard man to relate to and did not see him as a good example of health. Anyway, would love to hear from you all on this. Maybe we can create something great with our combined financial and energetic contributions

Love Georgia

avocado, tomato and cucumber chopped up and mixed up so the creamy avo coats over the tomatoes and cuc's. Yum!! I just added a smidge of raw barley miso and some grated carrot and beetroot to this today and it was even yummier

bumping this thread as I just blended up mature coconut, frozen pineapple and watermelon and we ate it like a dessert. It was a yoghurt kind of consistency and SO YUMMY!!! I've just thrown the leftovers into cups and put them in the freezer to see what it's like as an ice-cream. Though it's a bit fibrous as I did not take the brown skin off the coconut and did not strain it either...may try this next time if I want a really creamy texture.

STEVE, ARE YOU A NAVY MAN? hOW DO YOU FIND BEING RAW IN THE SERVICE? i WAS A VEGO WHEN I WAS IN THE ARMY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO AND FOUND IT REALLY HARD AND WAS CONSTANTLY HAMMERED BY MY SUPERIORS AT DUNTROON FOR NOT EATING MEAT!

GEORGIA

wHEN IS DOUG IN BYRON? WHAT'S HE PRESENTING?