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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 June, 2006 »

hi bronnie & congratulations! 

hmmm I was eating chocolate in the first weeks of my last preg too!  But got back on track soon for a 95% raw pregnancy.  the first trimester I've always found really tough foodwise (nausea).  but keeping away from junkier foods was for me crucial for a healthy preg - any cooked being steamed veg etc.

how old is your first child?   looking forward to hearing which books you have.  I'll list mine too soon.  AP type practises have sure worked for us - i don't know how people do it any other way! it seems natural & easier.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 27 June, 2006 »

my beautiful girl Jarni just turned 3. I have just got home late tonight after a farewell dinner so will get the books on here soon.

Very glad to hear someone esel went from chocolate to 95% during first trimester - my turn now!!
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 29 June, 2006 »

"I Had No Say In It" - not sure of the author as the book is packed away

"The Baby Book" William Sears - brilliant

"The Discipline Book" - William and Martha Sears

I am an advocate of all the books by Sears as they strongly believe in attachment parenting which I like.

I have read many others but these stand out.
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday 29 June, 2006 »

I would like to recommend any book by Franchesca Naish.

She is a well known Australian naturopath and natural fertility expert.

Her books include - "Natural Fertility', "The Natural Way to Better Babies", "The Natural Way to Better Pregnancy and Birth", and "The Natural Way to Better Breastfeeding".

Her work isnt necessarily about 'raw' pregnancy, but more just natural pregnancy methods, nathuropathic advice on pregnancy, nutritional suggestions, and natural methods for both contraception or conception. In "Natural Fertility" she details various methods such as temperature, mucus and lunar cycles for contraception/conception.  In the other 3 books she delves more into acupressure points, birthing positions, pregnancy exercises, herbs, supplements, foods, lifestyle advice, birth plans etc.

In terms of "raw" pregnancy,..  the books by Hygea Halfmoon are said to be good, but I havent personally read them (but want to!).

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 06 August, 2006 »

Hi Sheryl,

I ment to reply to this thread ages ago, but never got around to it! So here goes.
I am 22wks pregnant and trying to eat high raw. When I have my raw days, the difference in how i feel is huge! When I eat cooked I go to bed at night so bloated, sore and uncomfortable and find it so hard to sleep, but when I eat raw (like today...yeah!) I feel fantastic in the evening am able to sleep really well.

My last pregnancy I ate a SAD diet. I noticed that my blood pressure from the first pregnancy was a lot higher to what it is now. Also at the same stage in my last pregnancy I was an extra 4kg. In the last 11 weeks (of first preg) I put on 10kg...isnt that scary?? It was all fluid. I was like one giant pincushion! Needless to say I got pretty tired in labour, and after 28hrs got wheeled of for a c/section (something I thought would NEVER happen to me, and didnt make plans incase it did). I was not happy, but I have learned the hard way and this time I pray I get the natural birth I have always wanted!

I have also chosen to have my own independant midwife this time, and she is fantastic- worth every cent! Every check up is for 1 1/2 hrs and she explains everything in detail and lends me books to read which is such a bonus! I have read at least 2 books a month. I have also booked into a hospital (incase I do need to transfer in Labour) and when I was there for my last check up I asked what their policy was on VBAC (vaginal birth after caesearean) and the midwife didnt have a clue! She said it was probably up to the doctor who was on at the time. A lot of doctors want you to have another c/section if thats what your first was. I really dont trust the hospital system anymore.

There is a raw midwife in the US called Dixie who can answer a lot of your questions. She has her own website too. http://www.dixiestorylovinghands.com/

Someone else to research is Ina May Gaskin (midwife). I have read her book 'Ina May's guide to childbirth' and it is by far the best book on childbirth I have read! Couldnt put it down! She also wrote 'Spiritual Midwifery' which I am hoping to borrow off my midwife this week. The statistics from her birth center are pretty amazing. She is not raw, but gets her mums to eat a vegetarian diet. I think her ceaserean rate is at 1.8%, where as most hospital are at 25%.

If you want a great book on labour, try "Active Birth" by Janet Balaskas. It is a must read! I wish I had of read it with my first pregnancy. Most book shops sell it for $30.

Do all the research you can, and dont forget to research about labour and make up a birth plan. Its easy to bask in the glow of pregnancy,and think that labour will just happen naturally. Its good to know as much as possible. How exciting that you have a stack of books to read already! Anything by Michael Odent should be a good read. I just finished his book "Birth Reborn" (I think that was what it was called!).

I look foward to hearing some baby news in the future! Children are so precious:)

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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 23 September, 2006 »

I too Sheryl are at the same stage as you!!

My Husband Adam and I are looking at getting pregnant next year and I am looking all over the internet for best nutrtion and birthing programmes.

I have come across are birthing programme called hypnobirth and its a course designed to help you get bubby out easily and peacefully as possible with the least amount of pain. It teaches you how your muscles work and how you and the baby can work together to get him/her out.

Apparently all the women who do this course have wonderful labor/birth experiences and about 90% of women are able to have natural birth.

There is also a great book out called "The mind of your new born baby" by David Chamberlain. It is a fabolous book that looks at the way we have been birthing our children and what effect it has on them. It is an absolute must read. You will never look at birth or pregnancy the same way again

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 27 September, 2006 »

i read Jingee's raw preg book when i was preggers w/William. i also read Hygeia's (and have since read some of her other ones) plus a couple that are all about unassisted birthing. i highly recommend reading uc books even if you don't plan on having an uc simply because they are very informative and encouraging.
Michel Odent is one of those rare obs that are fully aware of a womon's ability to birth.
Grantley *-Read was also an aware ob. Ina May Gaskin and the other midwives of the Farm are heroes of the natural birth movement in the us.
someone else well worth the read is jeanine parvati-baker... her prenatal yoga.

when pregnant, our senses tend to heighten. i found having a mostly raw pregnancy the 4th time around was liberating to my ego and confidence. my strength gave my husband strength and he found his voice in the hospital when the med staff was trying to take away mine.

perhaps most importantly, educate yourself on all aspects of birth. i still was unaware that i could forego having drops placed in their eyes until my 3rd. just because you give birth in hospital, doesn't mean they control you or your decisions.

oooo, more baby talk! ugh, so jealous!
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

I have heard a quote - 'it makes sense for the baby to do most of its growing OUTSIDE rather than in - after all it has to get out!' - I forget who said that, but I think of it when I see statistics on birth weights being bigger these days and CPD  more frequent(diagnosed baby too big to fit through mother's pelvis); as well as women being told to eat huge amounts of protein to prevent toxaemia etc...just my feelings I don't know if there's a real link here but it does make some sense doesn't it?

We currently have an epidemic of women being told their bodies are not built for birth. Yes they are! 800 million years of evolution has not gone wrong in the last 25 years! The ONLY reasons you would have trouble with your pelvis are:
chronic illness/disability (e.g. rickets)
massive trauma like a car accident - but it would have to be massive trauma and unmended

Twenty years ago, physicians were known to tell women that the reason they had a cesarean was that the child's head was just too big for the size of the pelvis. The trouble began when these same women would stay at home for their next child's birth and give birth to a bigger baby through that same pelvis. This became very embarrassing, and it curtailed this reason being put forward for doing cesareans. What replaced this reason was the post-cesarean statement: "Well, it's a good thing we did the cesarean because the cord was twice around the baby's neck." This is what I've heard a lot of in the past ten years. Doctors must come up with a very good reason for every operation because the family will have such a dreadful time with the new baby and mother when they get home that, without a convincing reason, the fathers would be on the warpath. Just imagine if the doctor said honestly, "Well, Joe, this was one of those times when we jumped the gun—there was actually not a thing wrong with either your baby or your wife. I'm sorry she'll have a six week recovery to go through for nothing." We do know that at least 15 percent of cesareans are unnecessary but the parents are never told. There is a conspiracy among hospital staff to keep this information from families for obvious reasons.

In the 1920s and 1930s the x-ray offered new possibilities directly to measure internal diameters of the pelvis in living, pregnant women (Hiddinga and Blume, 1992). Radiologists began to offer prognoses for labour. Some obstetricians started to view every primigravid woman as an 'untried pelvis'. This attitude led to the introduction of the 'trial of labour', which included close monitoring of progress; a practice that is still being used today. Recently a systematic review of randomised controlled trials suggested that pelvimetry is not justified because the only significant effect is a rise in the caesarean section rate (Pattinson, 1999). No beneficial effect has been shown.

And this quote from a friend "I've lost count of how many women I know that've had caesareans for failure to progress (due to having long labours) or to having large babies or small pelvises, only to go on to give birth to subsequent babies at home with no problems. One woman was told her pelvis was too small as indicated by the pelvimetry, her csection baby was SO tiny and her homebirthed baby was HUGE, 11.5 pounds! Really shattered the "pelvis is too small" belief that her previous ob insisted upon."

Out of 42,793 women who had primary c/s between 1975 and 1990, only *84* of them met the criteria for "true" CPD! Of those 84, 40 underwent a trial of labor with the next pregnancy - 27 delivered vaginally (68%) and 7 (47%) of them actually had bigger babies the second time!
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

What a fantastic, informed post,  Thanks meg   x
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

My mother was a tiny little slip of girl and she easily gave birth to me at *lbs(ozs in a small country hospital in 1941.

Today she would have been hard pressed to have a C section.


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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

Ok guys - sorry for the long post, but birth is something that I am really passionate about. I have only had three babies, but can say that my 2 raw births were pleasurable. I know that Jocelyn mentioned 'forgetting' about the labour, I have found it better to immerse yourself in labour and welcome it. One of the issues/myths created by modern medicine is that the 'pain' of childbirth is the same as the pain of trauma and accidents. It is not. It is the opening of your whole body and soul, as in the book Spiritual Midwifery (mentioned earlier in this thread), an "interesting sensation". It is your body working in beautiful synchronicity to do exactly what it has been designed to do.

Embrace your pregnancy, your labour, your birth and then of course, your new life.

I have said it somewhere on this site before, but my first labour (cooked, aged 26) was 52.5 hours - a natural waterbirth at home...a 9lb baby, but what a mission because I was FIGHTING and RESISTING against the 'pain'. I woudl also like to mention that if this had not been at home it would have been a guaranteed unnecessary c-section. My second was 2.5 hours (mostly raw, aged 31) and that was with a 10lb baby - another natural waterbirth at home with just myself and my husband involved (we had a midwife friend in the house singing beautiful songs by the fire). My third labour (raw, aged 34) was 45 minutes - birthing a stillborn baby, which is no mean feat in itself - it is amazing how much work our babies do during their birthing, manouvering through the birth canal and entering this world, the sensation of birthing a baby who has been dead in your womb for 3 weeks is something quite different...a very solitary birthing experience.

The other thing that I really want to mention, and again I am wincing thinking of our poor Joss tearing so significantly - I never did any massage of the perineum since there is no evidence to support it, I never used any lubrication either. I had LARGE babies and the last two were born very quickly and I never even had so much as a nick. I believe that waterbirth is the key to helping soften the tissues, but the best thing you can do is to listen to your baby and your body and try positions that work for you during labour. I cry when I hear stories like Jocelyn's - and even more upsetting...the hospital system she describes is only changing for the worse.

Look into optimal foetal positioning (OFP) during pregnancy and sway your beautiful birthing dance, sing your birthing song - do whatever feels right for you. We are ALL beautiful birthing women, let's reclaim our power!
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

Naomi - and anyone else out there planning for a VBAC!

The essential VBAC book is Nancy Wainer Cohen's "Silent Knife" which is on VBAC promotion and caesarean prevention. Also, Henci Goer's "Thinking woman's guide to a better birth" and Diana Korte's "VBAC Companion"

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« Reply #27 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

I am in awe of women today being able to discuss childbirth and th be able to share experiennces.

No one discussed such things with me as one did not talk about such things when I gave birth.

I resisted and fought my labour all the way as I was told to do. Today I would have very different birthing techniques, very different.

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

Oh and "Birthing from Within" by Pam England - this is very inspirational for VBAC and HBAC (Homebirth after Caesarian) mamas, but is probably one of THE most inspirational reads for anyone who will ever birth!

On that note - would anyone be interested in me compiling a list of useful books for pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, parenting? I am happy to do it, although I warn that it could take some days to put together! I am certainly no expert but I am an avid reader and devourer of information, and I have been passionately supporting women through empowered pregnancy and birth since 1998...  smiley
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 05 October, 2006 »

I am in awe of all you amazing people with such beautiful stories to share. I and others here are learning so much from you. THANK YOU for sharing your experiences, knowledge and gifts with the world.

Love to you all,
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