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« on: Tuesday 17 April, 2007 »

Hi People


At Don Tolmans seminar which i went to in Sydney( compliments of raw pleasure  kiss)  he recommended we keep salt in our diets. I having been meaning to ask this for a while. I know he means the good celtic salt with the minerals but I remeber Jen recommended us in another thread that "salt is salt" and we shouldn't place it in our diets .
Abit confussed huh anybody care to share the light  cheesy ?
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Alegne ps: Don was really good!!!! Does anybody have his book? I am thinking about buying it when i save up cos its not cheap.
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 April, 2007 »

Hi Alegne,

I went to his seminar too.  It's a pity that we didn't meet each other.  I was a bit confused myself about the two schools regarding salt.  Actually, both make perfect sense to me.  I was talking with Lea regarding the confusing information out there over the past weekend.  Now, I decided to trust my own body and have faith that it has the intellegience to tell me what I want instead of reling on someone else who don't know me, my dietary history, emotional state, exercise level, etc etc to tell me what to eat and why.  It takes a lot of courage to do so, as I need to let go of all the fears of bad consequences if I don't follow the "guru".  But let's face it, we will never figure out who is right and who is wrong until our body present a symptom.  So it will be our body who tells us eventually and I do believe we can correct our mistakes if we are in tune with our bodies and be sensitive enough.  See how much we have corrected our mistakes of decades with raw eating of a few months?  I just ask myself whether I feel healthy, energetic and happy with myself today.  And if I feel right, nothing needs to be changed.  Anyway, it is just what I have been deciding to do and I hope that can help you.

BTW, I have Don's books.  I am happy to share with you once I finish. smiley

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 April, 2007 »

Here's a good explanation on the whole salt issue : http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/condiments/salt.html

whether it's celtic/sea/himalayan rock crystal blah blah blah - it's sodium chloride. celtic salt may be high in minerals - but then so are large rocks found in the bush, also pieces of metal etc. they all serve about the same level of importance in our nutritional needs - none. the minerals are in an inorganic (unusable) form.

(from above link)
"Salt is not synthesized or processed in any way in the body and serves no useful purpose. It enters as sodium chloride, it is stored as sodium chloride, it is excreted as sodium chloride. It leaves a trail of destruction from the time it enters until the time it can be excreted."
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 April, 2007 »

When I first started out with raw I was also confused by this issue and asked others opinions, getting mixed responses from everyone.

2 years on there is no need to logicise the question, my body definately does not take kindly to salt, celtic salt or otherwise.  The longer I abstain from it the more noticeable are the detrimental effects when I do consume it, which thesedays is never, and I don't miss it either. 

There really is no need for salt in my opinion, at the least not on a regular basis anyway, it even appears to be toxic to my body at this point.  However I am quite open to the possibility that other people are different and do well with salt.

As Frances says you just need to listen to your own body.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 April, 2007 »

i ate lots of yummy salty gourmet raw foods at the start. they were great. and over time i swayed to tomatoes and celery. some crew say there is a difference between organic sodium found in plant foods and inorganic sodium found in rocks...id rather eat food than rocks. but am happy to give rocks to my plants and eat the products they provide.

to dehydrate the water out of sea water and eat the salt...to keep us more hydrated and prevent cramps???i dont understand the logic. to eat rocks for minerals instead of plants...sure some animals do this. usually farm animals that are grown out of their natural range and fed sub par feed. they develop pica like us humans and will lick anything 'salty' including painted wood.

bit like us humans...

but id like to see any salt expert do a water fast on ocean water. the army used to say it was cool to drink seawater if that was all there was, not anymore. infact they say it will kill you faster than no water than all.

at the end of the day, we have to form our own beliefs based on our own conclusions. for me, the salt boat just doesnt float..
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 April, 2007 »

Thanks guys for all your repsonces . !
Today I nearlly bought some pink Himylain salt at the Bondi markets just but it was a large 1kg pack and at $38 I would rather spend that on organic produce.
I was just curious about the flavour none the less I will stick to my celtic salt when I feel like using salt in my recepies.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 May, 2007 »

Hi everyone,
I am studying Homeopathy and sodium chloride is used as a remedy.
Otherwise known as NAT. MUR     natrum chloratum     Salt, rock salt, sodium chloride

 From reading the article posted by Fruitus , I noticed it is used to treat alot of the symptoms that where stated ie; psoriasis, constipation etc.

Craving for salt is a key symptom.

Sodium Chloride (nat mur)
Regulates water distribution within the cells. Excessive moisture in any part of the system indicates nat mur deficiency.
Colds with discharge of watery mucus, wheezing, sneezing, blocked nose, itchy-sore throat, dry, painful nose and throat symptoms, toothache and facial neuralgia with flow of tears and saliva, eyes weak, the wind causes them to water.
Low spirits with a feeling of hopelessness, headaches with constipation, thin blood, difficult stools with rawness and soreness of the anus. Drowsiness, unrefreshing sleep - tired in the morning, loss of taste and smell, craving for salty foods and slow digestion.

Our bodies do need sodium chloride but in certain amounts and obtained the in the right ways.


Here is more info and other ideas on salt   

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/salt.htm


Sodium occurs naturally in nearly all fruits and most vegetables.
Pumpkin Seeds
Cashews
Pistachios
Chestnuts
Macadamias
Almonds

Anyone eating raw food should be obtaining all the benefits of organic sodium as opposed to cooked food eaters, which is probably why they crave salt to be added to food.

Personally I would try to obtain all my sodium needs from food first. If I had salty cravings I would go for the foods with a higher sodium content like DurianRider, being tomatoes & celery, pumpkin seeds and cashews.

Again, let your body be your guide.



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« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 May, 2007 »

I agree with the naysayers of salt, though yes there is a huge divide in the raw community about this. I've noticed proponenents of fancy 'good' salts usually support high fat raw as well.

enjoy the different varieties of salt, the tastes, what they do for your raw gourmet, but be aware of them and they will naturally phase out over time.
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