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Hi everyone! I've got an interesting question for you all... I've noticed that there are many people here who have life partners, with whom you share your life and many of you also have beautiful children together. So, my question is, how did you choose to pledge your dedication to each other? Did you have a traditional/conventional wedding? If so, was it in a church, garden, beach...? Or did you have a commitment ceremony of some sort? Was your wedding performed by a priest, a celebrant or something else (are there even other options?)
And for those of you who are in a relationship and would like to make it somewhat more... I'm not sure of the right word, maybe defined? Recognised? What are you planning on doing? Have you thought about it?

I really don't know where all of these questions have come from!  laugh I have never been in a romantic relationship in my life and I'm certainly not considering it - at this point in my life, I can't imagine ever wanting to have that kind of long-term relationship with any other person (although my cat and I are in for the long haul!!  rofl) I guess it interests me because if I were to ever find myself in a relationship with someone I truly loved and I wanted to recognise my commitment to them in a concrete way, I wouldn't be able to have a traditional marriage. Even if the church did recognise the love between two women (or two men) I wouldn't want to get married, because I'm a strong athiest and I don't feel the need to have the church recognise my relationship.

Well, thanks for reading guys!  ohyeah
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

... I have never been in a romantic relationship in my life and I'm certainly not considering it.... I can't imagine ever wanting to have that kind of long-term relationship...

..perhaps that's why your name is Freedom, Freeedom? BTW, did you ever end up actually changing your name? I was married by a celebrant in a backyard ceremony with close friends and family.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Boy, what a question!!!!  Pandora's box has opened....LOL.

Well, I'm married and I did it 'traditionally' through the eyes of God.  But I did get married in the Botanical Gardens in Bundaberg with a Pastor, and then celebrated the night away.  Also, I was 21!!!  Now that is 13 years ago and am still married and have two beautiful girls.

If I was to do it all over again, I would save my money I would spend on the wedding and go on a holiday (Perhaps Canada, France, Italy.....wherever, just not the Botanical Gardens in Bundaberg.....but that was lovely nonetheless).  But I will say I will still do it 'traditionally' through the eyes of God because I have a strong belief in God. 

I suppose I also wanted to have the same last name as my husband, and wanted my children to have that too.  I know there are other ways you can achieve that, but this is the way that I wanted.  Adam and Eve were never married by a pastor, priest or whatever, but were still married through the eyes of God!!!  I think also some people, like myself, get married the traditional way to be legally recognised as a married couple.

As for if you were ever to find yourself in a relationship with someone you truly loved and wanted to recognise that commitment, there are many other ways you can do that that doesn't involve a/the church.  I just say.............GO AWAY AND TAKE A HOLIDAY.  You'll enjoy it. ohyeah

I tell my husband that the next time I get married, I'm going away to Italy for the ceremony!!!!!!  Oh, and he can come along too rofl rofl rofl

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Hey FreedonB, what an interesting question! I will tell you my experience because you asked, I do not want to push my beliefs onto anyone, I respect everyones choice and decision.

My husband and I were engaged after two weeks of dating, and married 4 months later. Right from the word go, we felt instinctivly that we were meant to be together, this feeling was so strong, we felt that we had known eachother before and now had been reunited in this life. Our lifetime path was to be together, we were planning our marriage before he had offically asked me, we knew it was right for us to commit to eachother in a way that would be binding on earth as well as the next life, the confirmation from higher powers sealed our decision.

Our beleifs in getting to know eachother spiritually more than physically whilst dating helped us look deeper into our souls, to see one anothers inner true self, we didnt have sex until we were married. Most of the Christian world believes that Marriage is till death only and then you are parted forever. We chose to be married in a temple that performs marriages for eternity, meaning we will be together with our children forever...and not only that, but continue the family unit forever, Death has no bounds on the marriage and family unit, and what a wonderful promise that is, because my husband is my life, he is my part of my soul and who Iam. We chose to be married, the physical act, because for us it is symbolic of our promise for eternity, it helps us be more dedicated and really work at what we have together. We follow the traditional male and female roles in our marriage, whilst working together as a team, we are both equal partners.

Hope this helps, and I say again I am not preaching, I dont judge anyone in their choices, I respect each individuals decision for their own path in life.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Timely Freedom...I'm gettin married at 4.00PM today lol.

Defintely Non-Tradtional for me. We want the wedding to be fun for everyone involved. We are having a Celtic Theme (actually an ancient celtic ceremony including the hand fastening which is where the term "Tie The Knot" originated").

The celebrant specialises in celtic wedding and shall be wearing a kilt as will I and most of my guests.

Oh and it's at home. The bride will be piped down the street then a short ceremony including the "warming of the rings" where the rings are passed between family members who then think on the couple and wish them well...there's a lot of stuff actually but you get the idea.


And my "best man" is female so that's certainly not "traditional"...my best friend just happens to be a girl so I figured why not?

After that...one big party with a few "surprises" in store for guests one of which is an artist who will be doing ink brush drawings of people.

"Traditional" ? ( thumbs down ) lol.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

John, all the best for your wedding today.  It sounds amazing...I hope you tell us all about it in the coming weeks. 

May your future lives together bring you much love and happiness.

Congratulations!

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Congratulations John,

Indeed, how timely.  So what are you doing writing on the forum......aren't you supposed to be PANICKING!!!!   KIDDING!!!   If you're like me, I was really calm because I knew it was right.

Congrats again and best wishes to you both.

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P.S.  If possible, and when able to, I'm sure we'll all like to see some photos.....
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Oh your day sounds so exciting and FUN, I am so happy for you John, all the best, please post a pic of the beautiful bride!

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Hehe, perhaps it is Brett. And, yes, I did legally change my name as soon as I turned 18 - so in just a few weeks I will be celebrating 19 years of being on this planet and 1 year of being Freedom. I'm sure you're backyard ceremony was gorgeous - when I was little we had a beautiful snowball tree (don't know the botanical name!) in our backyard and I used to say that I wanted to get married beneath it in spring when the flowers started falling.

Thanks for your answer Rita, oh and how nice of you to let your husband come to Italy, lol!  laugh Though if you ever found yourself in a position where you could take that trip, wouldn't it be beautiful to have a renewal of the vows? My parents have talked about doing that a number of times, I think it would be fun but they've never gotten around to it.

That's so beautiful BB, that you knew so soon you were committed to spending eternity with your partner. I know lots of people who would say it's stupid to get married so quickly, blah blah blah but I think if you can feel that it's right, do it. My parents spent four years dating and 2 years engaged before they actually got married, but I think that was more due to pressure from their families (and financial constraints) as they were only 16 when they started dating. But in a few weeks they're celebrating their 23rd wedding anniversary!

CONGRATULATIONS John!!!  yahh And you're non-traditional wedding sounds awesome - do you or your partner have a Celtic background, or did you just think it would be fun? Anyway, have a wonderful day!  ohyeah
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

in the past I gave into society/family pressure, so I had official weddings (2 of them), done by civilian celebrants, no church.

None of the 2 wedding has good memories, as they were missuesed by various family members for their personal agendas and forcing their wishes...

In future I probably will not do any official ceremonies...

I have a question - why there is a need for any type of ceremony at all, why there needs to be something official,
why teh need for papers, stamps and signatures ?

would like to read people views on this.

so far when I am questioning this, the answers are of type - well thats how it is and always been, and society and family expects that...not good enought reason for me...
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

interesting point rudolf..... i don't know why many of us feel the need for an actual event such as a ceremony or similar, whether it's recognised or not. it probably comes down to years of conditioning - it is in no way a bad thing, it comes down to the individuals involved and what they want. i could take a stab at it and guess that many if not most of us humans are rather out of touch with ourselves emotionally, have blurred or contradictory views on self, attachment to self, ego, love, who/what/where etc and so need to recognise things externally (i'll put my hand up first for being out of touch with myself) - or maybe people just do it becauses it's fun. sometimes the reason is too simple for us over-complicated beings to see.

in answer to freedom's initial question - at the moment my plans for a recognition ceremony involve just two people - hopefully one of them is me - in a gorgeous tropical rockpool/lagoon, dressed as we were when born - eating mango from a coconut bowl and then possibly using each other as plates (think i'll stop there.) but then i'm open to whatever my significant other wants....

ps - john, i dig the "best girl" concept - hope your day is special
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in answer to freedom's initial question - at the moment my plans for a recognition ceremony involve just two people - hopefully one of them is me - in a gorgeous tropical rockpool/lagoon, dressed as we were when born - eating mango from a coconut bowl and then possibly using each other as plates (think i'll stop there.) but then i'm open to whatever my significant other wants....

yeah, but thats how every day of the life should be laugh
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Freedom - I am getting married in 6 weeks from now in a garden wedding (we arent religious) then the reception at a restaurant on the river.
We are only having 32 people there, so its quite small.
Gary and I have been dating for about 3 or 4 years and engaged for about 1 year.
We were friends for awhile first too.
Some parts of the ceremony will be traditional, but we have written our own vows to say.
We are only having 1 bridesmaid and 1 groomsman, so its pretty simple.
Just a few family and friends gathering together for a nice day & dinner!  x  x
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

we met in a bike shop last year. around april it was. love at first sight...all my mates were like 'wow! you scored dude!, can i have a ride?!'. i had to work hard to get her. constant visits to the bike shop..pretending i wasnt interested when actually i really, really was..you know how it is, after a few visits one of the sales people says 'so how about it? you interested? we can hook it up for you? come on you know you want it..'

id go back for a few weeks..go to different bike shops and see what was hanging around there. saw a few nice lightweight fast looking models but none like her. they really know how to make a fine piece in taiwan. i used to be into euro and american models but thesedays..the asians are tak'n the cake. they create so many..any flaws are quickly eliminated in the next generation. so you can be rest assured your in for a long relationship.

i went to thailand and then america and so we had some time apart. i came back and we went for a ride..but something just didnt feel right..had i changed? had she? we decided to seek some professional help and booked in to definitely the most famous clinic in the world. its in sydney. called pedal pushers. they help more people overcome these sort of issues than anywhere...

they told me that i was at fault..that she was fine and the problems were with me. i wasnt flexible enough..i had to relax more. too tense in the shoulders i was. then steve the guru pulled me aside and said 'we set her up right..she is ready to roll. you just gotta harden up and ride her more.' that was all the advice i needed.

so we planned a trip from byron to adelaide. just me and her. no distractions. riding for 7 hours a day..for 14 days. we saw had lots of time to get to really know each other. nothing like the outback for some real intimacy. we would get up with the sun and ride all day and often into the night..after a week i really started to enjoy riding her.

when we got back to adelaide people said we looked like we had grown together. you could tell she was mine and i was hers. maybe it was the 'go vegan' sticker i put on her. whatever the reason..they knew we were a hot item. we have been in a few magazines even. she always attracts attention. especially with school boys. they are like 'wow! ive never seen one that sophisticated!'

i really get pumped up talking about her. im proud of her heritage and where she has taken me. the places we have been and the trials we have conquered..
but i get a bit irritated when people ask me 'how do you know its a 'she'?'

cant they tell? cant they see the beauty? the smooth lines..the curves..the hardness when it counts..the softness when required..the sexy carbon glimmering in the sun..the long travel forks to deal with whatever the trail may throw at us..the aggressive geometry that puts us both in an optimum center of gravity..

this aint no rough bloke my bike...my bike has all the virtues of a good woman.
one of my mates said that the reason i aint found a woman is cos im too busy riding 'her' all the time. 'no chick wants to compete with a bike' said another..

maybe they are right..but we got paperwork to signify our commitment. a reciept from the bike shop. with witnesses. sure we did it for tax purposes..but who cares as long as your happy...
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

I loved that post Harley, laughed and laughed.

I think whatever a person/couple does, it needs to be entirely because it is what they want and how they want. Be true to your own ideals and values and throw the rest out the window.


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