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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Harley, how funny!!  What a great story.

BerryBliss, I love the knowing you both felt when you met each other.

Viola...a handmade wedding dress.  That sounds incredible.  Photos??  Your ceremony sounded amazing too.

Rudolf, I have always wondered the same thing.  I could never understand why people felt like a piece of paper would give them commitment.  I always thought you could achieve that without the paper and the ceremony.  However, in speaking to many, many people, including some who had been together a long time, they've all told me they feel different after getting married, no matter how committed to each other they felt beforehand.

I'm going to sound like a relationship junkie here, but I've been in three relationships and never had the desire to marry any of them.  Just as well or I'd have been divorced three times by the age of 34!!  (Or maybe not...maybe the paper would have made the difference and I'd still be with my first partner...who knows?!)  Anyway, I think I'm your ultimate commitment phobe...I'm happily single and can't see myself being in a relationship again.

Reading the replies above though, I think that it's beautiful to have some kind of formal recognition of your commitment to one another and maybe just living together or saying you're committed isn't enough. 

fruiteus maximus, your celebration sounds divine!!

RNJ...all the best for your wedding in six weeks.  Sounds lovely.

Emi, it's sad that what some consider to be "the best day of your life" turned out to be one of the worst for you, and that you did it for the family.  I guess we all live and learn.  I think I'm like you in your belief that relationships are like the seasons; maybe it's because my mother's been married twice and my father three times (GREAT role models!!) so I don't put much value on wedding vows or their meaning. 

Great thread Freedom. 

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

Oh MY GOODNESS...phew, harley, wow..speechless...lol
That was soooo sexy and hillarious at the same time..Love it!

I gotta show hubby that one!

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

DR, that made me laugh so hard.  Always feels good when you have a deep belly laugh!!!  If only we were all so committed to one another.....hee, hee.  laugh

BTW, Harley, if you trade 'her' in for a newer model, how do you think she's going to feel?  LOL  Tongue rofl

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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 06 October, 2007 »

I know lots of people who would say it's stupid to get married so quickly, blah blah blah but I think if you can feel that it's right, do it.

Never got anyone saying this to my face but I can ONLY imagine the gossip behind my back.

Married my husband six weeks after meeting him, we celebrated 12 wonderful years in May 2007.

We had a fairly un-traditional wedding. We were desperately low on funds, so had to pawn our cameras to buy the wedding rings. We married at a registry office after pulling three strangers off the street to be our witnesses.

Spent the afternoon of our wedding day in the New Zealand Tax Office (could have done without that) as needed to get our tax refunds so we could pay for our airline tickets back to Australia.

If I had my time again, I wouldn’t do it any other way (except I would leave out the visit to the Tax office)

To me, it’s the marriage (or commitment) that counts, not the actual wedding.
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

My turn lol,

I got married in a church, no music at reception, no alcohol (probably a good thing lol) and it was all over in two hours... I love my husband for life, for ever... But if i was to do it again, i would invite all of my friends and wanted family to a backyard or beach party, without letting them know that we are getting married and surprise everyone, dress would then be casual, no presents (takes pressure off), lots of music, love, laughter, and fun.... What else does anyone need lol...

As far as that dreaded piece of paper some people refer to as an unimportant thing to have, i say "If it's so unimportant why not have it, how can that hurt or change your belief", remember it's already unimportant to you, so just sign away who cares lol...

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

long time ago, back in my country, I heard this expalanation, why the wedding or the paper kills everything :

there is no need to try work on relationship, once the goal has been achieved,

it was comapared to the public transport :

You spot the bus, You realize it could be Yours, You start running, You realize the bus is going to leave the busstop, so You run hard, You run fast, You produce Your running PB, just to get a chance to catch the bus.

You may succeed, so You catch teh bus, You jump on, totaly exhausted,
You look around , find the free seat, You drop down on teh seat and will not move anymore.

You catched the bus, got a comfy seat, and so You are going to reciver from the hard running and just enjoy the ride, You have done Your bit, and the bus is suposed to provide the effortless ride...


Have You seen anybody on the bus to keep running ?
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

John - I hope you had a lovely wedding, and are currently off enjoying a lovely honeymoon somewhere romantic and relaxing! x
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

That may be right, Rudolf.  But if you are to compare my marriage to the public transport, then, yes, I suppose we did do the running before the marriage.  But once married you know that you are on that bus for the long haul/trip and there are other things you can learn about the bus rather than just running after it.  You can talk, get to know the driver and find out what he or she likes, add a few more buses perhaps to the journey.....whatever takes your fancy.

I know a lot of people who aren't married and in a relationship, and they're sitting on a bus comfortable and not moving anymore.  The 'piece of paper' is NOT the thing that stops people trying.......it's the people themselves.  I have seen people not married and in a long-term relationship and not trying and things fall apart.  And I have seen that with married people too.  It comes down to individuals and what they stand for and who they are; and whether the two people can be happy AND comfortable with their partner/spouse/bus!!!!

As for "there is no need to work on the relationship once the goal is achieved", you can always set other goals in your lives.....whether it be starting a family, going on a trip, learning a new language.......whatever.  Relationships are on-going work whether you're married or not.

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P.S. John I hope you enjoyed your wedding yesterday.  Best wishes again to both of you.
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

P.S.  when I say 'adding a few more buses perhaps to the journey', I meant little buses (children)........not other people........LOL!!!!!  I just re-read it and thought I'd better claify before people get the wrong idea!!!  rofl rofl

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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

Rita, I posted what I remember hearing back than, I am not saying I agree with it, but it is good paralel to describe lots of relationships (with a valid bus ticket or not laugh)
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

It's a case of whatever rocks your boat..... Again each to his or her own lol... Some believe in pieces of paper some don't, who cares as long as you find that special someone to share your journey with, it's not how you get there, but what you do to get there, lol iv'e confused myself  lol i'm going now lol....

John happy marriage and all that lol....

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« Reply #26 on: Sunday 07 October, 2007 »

I apologise, Rudolf, for my misunderstanding. Sometimes I read something and assume what is meant by it.....

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« Reply #27 on: Monday 08 October, 2007 »

As long as you've got the Love thing going on, who cares if it is traditional or not!

Beautiful thread Freedom:)
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 09 October, 2007 »

Great thread Freedom.

Hope you had a great wedding day John!

Its wonderful to hear about peoples past and future wedding/commitment ceremonies.

I like the idea of a commitment ceremony because it is a celebration. I think that it is a cool concept to have a day/party dedicated to the LOVE between a couple.

I have been with my partner for 3.5 years and would like to have a 5 year celebration ceremony. I think that it could be cool to celebrate our love retrospectively... ie. have a love celebration ceremony every 5 years or something. This appeals to me because I'm not so certain that I believe in the one soul mate thing, I think that it can be good to have many loves throughout our lifetimes and to feel good about each one at the time. But I have to admit that the idea of one love for life is so appealing in that is more socially acceptable and comfortable. Its interesting to try to think about what 'commitment' means if it is over an undetermined period of time, ie. my parter has been financially supporting me a bit over the last year because I have taken significant time off of work due to illness. He is committed to me and thinks that his extra effort will 'work out in the wash'. I often wonder if it is a good idea to let him support me unless we have commited ourselves to life or serious long-term?

I like the idea of having a shared last name... maybe one that is not connected to the two names we have now.

Durianrider... what a fabulous story! It was strangely romantic. You are a great writer. You could write a good column for a mag or other publication.

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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 09 October, 2007 »

Garfield i love it..........

as long as you've got the love thing going on,who cares!! im with you on that one.........cheers!
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