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« on: Thursday 25 October, 2007 »

are any of you dating?  is there ever a conflict of interest on raw?  do you ever find yourself not dating someone because of their prefrence in cuisine? 

the person i am dating right now is ashamed to eat in front of me, and will not eat things in front of me.  it weirds me out.  =/

do you think there are more raw women out there then men?  i learned in my sociology class that based on statistics women are more likely to be focused on health issues then men.  what do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 October, 2007 »

what I think is that statistics can proof or disapproof whatever You decide, that no person is actualy, The Average, or The Median or The Standard Deviation...


statistics should be banned, statisticians should be prosecuted and send to Quantanamo for missleading the humanity for ages...


there is a lot of women I am not dating at the moment  nope
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 October, 2007 »

Can I ask why he is ashamed to eat in front of you? 
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 October, 2007 »

Hey.  Interesting question about if there would be more raw females than males.  I guess you could take any small subsection of a raw community and count up the numbers,  and see if any trends evolve.  Like the people who are members of Raw Pleasure could be representative of the wilder world out there.  But yes that statistic is then muddled by other factors such as if the individual is one who would seek a community, and if the individual would become a forum member of a community, which are traits that could show their own trends in sociology.  Hard thing to find an answer for without a census!

To your other question, I haven't yet found myself not dating someone because of their preference in cuisine.  But I have found myself not dating people because of their disregard of themselves and their health.
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 October, 2007 »

We know there is more raw females. The sydney potluck is all females nearly! Not complaining about the lack of guys Wink
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

he feels ashamed or guilty.  it's not really a big deal.  i just wanted to know what you people thought about dating.  =)

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

are any of you dating?  is there ever a conflict of interest on raw?  do you ever find yourself not dating someone because of their prefrence in cuisine? 

For me it would depend on the circumstances of dating.

If I were dating and living separately from my boyfriend, I would find it difficult but manageable, if my boyfriend was not raw.

If I was often sleeping over / staying at my boyfriend’s house, I would find it almost impossible to stay raw focused, if my boyfriend was not raw.

I am actually married. I have gone raw for specific health reasons and had to ask my husband to go raw too because there is no way on earth I could have stayed raw focused, if he was grilling up steak and chips every night. Luckily for me, he agreed to go raw in support and has embraced the lifestyle. 
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

My BF is not raw, but neither was i when we started going out. im the one who has changed! he fries up bacon and eggs for breakfast and loves his steak.
but luckily atm we dont live together. so i eat raw when im not with him, then when i am at his house he is quite used to me just eating fruit, however he does nag about it sometimes.
its harder having dinner at his house tho, because of his parents and grandpa n sister all there and the mum cooks a chinese dinner (he is Chinese) and its like all stir fry n pork. so i say that im not used to that food n cut up some vege's, and they r used to me doing that, but i do feel SO like i dont fit in and im not normal. its tough. it does isolate me when i make my own bowl of food.
If i do move in with my BF, he is going to have to get used to how i eat, and he doesnt mind too much. but then again it is hard when there is so much bad food temptation. it would be SOOO mcuh better to have a raw bf.
but, i love him now so im gona stick with him! in the end, life is about more than just a diet n love is very powerful. i love him no matter what he eats...... its just alot harder for me!

atm, he tells me to eat more meat, eat more balanced, eat some rice. I told him to give me til the of this year to eat my raw n whatever i want. if i dont feel and look glowing n healthy by then, then i will listen to him. ( i said it just to shut him up!)

we have had fights over it. apparently his last GF loved food n they used to always go out to resturants n stuff.. adn he complains that its no use taking me anywhere becuase i dont "enjoy my food" (MEANING- i dont enjoy the same food he does!!! if we went to a raw resturant i would LOVE it!!) but then again apparently his last GF was slightly overweight, on diet pills, and very moody and selfish! so i think he should just appreciate what he has and respect that i am trying to look after myself... and after all, if we stay together n one day have kids, im sure he wants them as healthy as they can be!!

AT first , i used to try to tell him and convince him about how good raw natural foods were, n i used to hold my nose when he cooked something disgusting like pigs trotters (EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW) but then he would do the same back to me n my salads. If i just let him do what he wants, and let him know that i love him n respect his choiices even tho i dont agree, he seems to do the same for me.

maybe just let the guy your dating know that , even tho you are into raw foods, it doesnt mean that you are forcing him to be! let him know there is no pressure, and that u just like spending time with him - no matter what he likes to eat. Then hopefully, he will see how lovely and glowing and healthy you are, and his mind will open without any pressure. evryone has to come to raw at their own time. u can be an example, but try to reassure the guy to relax around u ! good luck =)

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

im a vegansexual. ive dated chicks in the past that had different views on food etc. its torment for them, torment for me. trying to manipulate someone into something i think they should be..even if its for their own good..that just invites disaster.

id rather meet someone whom has similar values, goals and directions. i wouldnt want someone to come fruit shopping when they really wanted to go curtain shopping..ie im into letting people be whom they truly are. like a bird..free. not pressured into fitting some sort of mold im creating for them.

sure we can try and convert partners..but most of the time they do it for us. but that just kills the spirit in the person. and whom wants to be with someone that has a breakable spirit..?

i really had to be honest with myself and accept my family, friends etc for whom they are. they know whom i are. and if they want to improve on health..they know whom to come to.

food is such a big part of living...and i laugh at people that say 'your so focused on food!' yet they couldnt go a day without eating themselves..or they couldnt go a meal without eating some sort of animal bit..you take away their fries and coffee and you see whom they really are..lol!

so for me, id rather be with someone that dashed for the last ripe banana, someone that could climb higher on the fruit tree, or know more organic hook ups than me. rather than feeling guilty about their food addictions and feel they have to eat in privacy. or me having to cringe that they are actually eating dog food for dinner.

holding out for the right person..i think thats cool. it shows your not lonely and are happy with spending time by yourself. that you know how to entertain yourself. that you actually have hobbies. that your emotionally independent. it pays off in the long run. rather than swinging from one relationship to the other with no time really alone. cos if we dont have that alone time..how can we expect others to know whom we really are if we dont know whom we really are?

i think that should be law..people go out bush and find themselves..before they settle down and have kids etc. maybe we wouldnt see such a high divorce rate, cheating etc. people with the wrong person but dont have the courage to admit it..dont have the will power to move on..dont have the confidence to be alone...

i know one raw guy..he goes out on dates and gives the chick a written resume..he is mr science! lol!
like anything it can be taking to extremes..but finding a happy medium that truly vibes with our own desires...thats what we are looking for.

cos whom wants to be with someone that is in a relationship but is 'fishing' around everyday...
that doesnt serve us or anyone..

and its so important that we be what we want to attract.....its one thing to obtain a relationship..but another thing to sustain it..
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

he feels ashamed or guilty.  it's not really a big deal.  i just wanted to know what you people thought about dating.  =)

Sorry to hear that you're going through that, it must have a feeling of strangeness.  For me, acceptance of people is something I value highly.  Wherever they are in their path at the time, so long as they're moving forwards not backwards or staying still, it is good. 

I was thinking about this issue last night, chuckling to myself.  I went out to dinner, but my "date" was with my family.   I think on an actual "date" I find it easier to be who I am, and eat the food I want to eat!  They chose the venue, and I thought all along I don't mind if I eat some cooked food I am sure there will be a vegetarian/vegan meal I can chose.  Apparently also in my mind was that it had to be a *healthy* choice too, because when the menu came out it seemed like there was nothing on it I could eat.  The one and only vegetarian choice on it was nachos, hold the cheese and sour cream please.  And my brain thought ewwwww at that.  So I had a chicken and avocado salad, hold the chicken.  It was delicious, raspberry dressing with whole raspberries in it, so yummy. 

But every few minutes someone would go "do you want some of my potatoes?"  "how about some wedges?", "I'm not going to eat all this lettuce in my side salad", "I don't eat these" as they plonked cucumber and tomato on my plate (okay that bit was nice).  I spent most of the time saying no thanks, no thanks, no thanks.  They were kind of appalled that all I was going to eat was a small salad (it was very small, it came out with 5 pieces of chicken arranged around the plate, so I sent it back and they removed them),  since the venue didn't change the salad size even though I was having it sans meat.   Family definitely were not coping well that I was not going to eat myself to a state of not being able to walk comfortably, as the rest of them were,  and had no qualms about vocalising it! 

Perhaps a 'date' would have more manners, be interested in you as an individual and thus respect your choices.  It sounds in a way this is what your partner is doing.  Possibly something in his mind makes him uncomfortable to eat  around you,  could be fear of judgment?
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 October, 2007 »

I kinda feel sorry for this society.

I am so exited about the way vedic civilization used to live and also the pagan civilization...

the way people would meet, date, arrnge the life together and it was all based around healthy lifestyle, around the most healthy way of growing own fruits, vegs, etc.

Boy and girl would first dream up together their future garden, fruit orchard etc and will materialize it, and only when it was done they would have kinda wedding ceremony and start living together.

The dating was basicaly based around adjusting each other knowledge of gardening, agricultural issues and the way the whole Universe was running around this.

Of course in these civilization, nobody would ever come up with idea of eating animals, and creating the discusting smell of burning fat and meat of various animal body parts.

I am looking forward into near future, when the move towards this values and lifestyle and wisdom will radicaly speed up.

It will become to natural selection process, where the junk eaters will not be able to attract partners and therefore will not have families and children, so they would not produce next generation of junk eaters.

I made my mind long time ago, that I am going to have my next children with partner fully living the health attitude towards the food, I am not going to use label like raw, or vegan or vegetarian, as these labels are not the best categories, but it means the philosophy where on each day the best meal for the health reason is choosen and prepared and this way the kids will be brought up.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 October, 2007 »

My husband is not raw. But he has been 100% supportive of the diet. thanks to the major improvements in my emotions and behaviour he is eating a lot more raw now than ever and loving it although he never intends to give up meat or be 100% raw. My commitment to him is strong.

However if I were single I would probably go for someone raw. It would just make life easier. And if I were to have children now instead of back then they would be raw vegan also.

I've chatted here to people who cannot stand the smell of a person who eat cooked food including meats and I'm glad that I don't have that problem. I truly commiserate with people who have that problem or advantage depending on their point of view.

I've also seen people who were 100% raw passionate vegans who couldn't stay together because one of them had commitment issues. A full time partner just did not suit the lifestyle.

Being 100% raw vegan is not a guarantee that a relationship will work. It's a great thing to have in common but not essential. I see my husband change gradually of his own choice and while he says that he will never be 100% and I respect his choice, I think that he will end up eating totally raw at home. while out with mates that might be a different matter but at home he will be a raw vegan hunk.

Anyhow, I have rambled a lot! Off to bed now....

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 October, 2007 »

true, meeting another raw vegan doesnt guarantee chemistry.

just as  my raw friends with teenage kids they brought up into healthy living..those kids still did drugs..cos that is what the majority of society does. you have to have massive conviction to go against the grain.

being a switched on parent in 2007..with all the peer pressure to abuse the body..i dont envy any parent today. cooked food not only is accepted, its encouraged. just like your workmates say'n your weird if you dont so drunk your close to going to hospital to get your stomach pumped...lol! just like if you tell a smoker to move away cos you dont appreciate their industrial waste product stench.

but yeah..we gotta do what we gotta do.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 28 October, 2007 »

I agree. With the drugs issue too. However if we try every minute of every day to be the best parent we can be then if they do turn to drugs.... we know we did the best we could.

Be the best we can be everyday to everyone. For some it's not good enough but for most it's everything!

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 October, 2007 »

food doesn't make the man, (or woman!) but I know I couldn't live with, be with someone who didn't share similiar beliefs to mine in many things, food being one, parenting another...

holding out for the right person..i think thats cool. it shows your not lonely and are happy with spending time by yourself. that you know how to entertain yourself. that you actually have hobbies. that your emotionally independent. it pays off in the long run. rather than swinging from one relationship to the other with no time really alone. cos if we dont have that alone time..how can we expect others to know whom we really are if we dont know whom we really are?

and its so important that we be what we want to attract.....its one thing to obtain a relationship..but another thing to sustain it..

So VERY well said durian rider! and as others before me have said, you cannot change someone...you can learn to live with things, well some things anyway, and respect has a lot to do with that I think. A partner doesn't have to do what you do, but so long as they respect your decisions and support you in that well then...and it sounds like many of you have partners who are supportive and respectful which is 100% ace!!

I made my mind long time ago, that I am going to have my next children with partner fully living the health attitude towards the food, I am not going to use label like raw, or vegan or vegetarian, as these labels are not the best categories, but it means the philosophy where on each day the best meal for the health reason is choosen and prepared and this way the kids will be brought up.
so true Rudolf, I agree with you especially the bit about not using labels - labels in general are a way for people to not have to deal with things...kind of a 'there, i've named it, now I can stop searching for the answer' approach if that makes sense?...
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