nothiing,narda not a thung!....its great...sorry Tracey,this doesnt help you.....RawnaturopathJen is very knowledgable on stuff like this...

good for you FreedomB....you rock girl!i truly admire you....

WB, from my knowledge, vasectomy doesn't have any effect hormonally on a male. Nothing is removed it just cuts the tube via which sperm get into the penis for ejaculation. And you've only gotta look at DR to see that it's had no ill effects on his health...only the positive health effect of never having to worry about fathering a child which...and over-population is a very real concern that I think Harley feels strongly about. Just like his health Harley takes it seriously and is 100% commited to his beliefes...and I honour him for that

As for your endometriosis, have you done much fasting and cleansing like colonics to help? I used to have really severe endo and after doing a good fast and cleanse including some colonics and enemas and steaming and skin brushing, etc and then going 100% raw vegan (this was in my mid 20's) I completely rid myself of my endo!! ANd boy what a relief after having endured over a decade of excruciating periods every month. ANd my menstrual cycle also went to a consistent 29 1/2 day cycle...which is what we're meant to be (the moon cycle is 29 1/2 days...28 days for a month was a male invention!!)

Also, to all the women using the natural or temperature or billings method for tracking their ovulation, are you aware that you can spontaneously ovulate at the exact moon cyle under which you were born. It's called your lunar ovulation and it can and does happen no matter where in your "biological cycle" you are...hence why you hear of women conceiving in the middle of their period!! Both my bubba's were conceived on my lunar ovulation! And I got told by doctors when I was in my early 20's that because of endometriosis scarring I would NEVER fall pregnant!! Tell that to my beautiful bubba's!! They obviously had other ideas...and boy am I glad they did

Good luck Tracey,
Love Georgia xo

Contraception.......

I think almost everytime I have ever been to the doctors from about the age of 18 (only handful of times, and different ones from different places I've lived) I have been asked what contraception I use, to which I have replied condoms and they have then proceeded to tell me that I should go on the pill for extra "protection" and all the "benefits" the pill provides for women.
Nah no thanks. I like my hormones just the way they are lol.

Condoms aren't the best for the environment which kind of bugs me (they're much less messy though ), I wish I was brave enough to go by my temperature etc, but I get SCARED lol And since my partner DOES want kids I doubt he'd do anything permanent  We'll get to that one later.

I really don't want to have kids. I feel that there are more than enough other people having babies to make up for me not having any
I would love to foster children because I would love to be able to provide a loving home for them (when my stepmum died and my dad moved to the country, my stepsis had terrible experiences with foster parents) although I am not sure I'd be allowed to have "vegan fosterkids".

Harls I'm sure that you would have thought damn hard into what you did before you did it as you do with everything. So good on you. I guess it's a lot less invasive than they way that we de-sex cats and dogs.

Thanks emi

That is true that nothing is ever a 100% guarantee! I find it amazing the amount of ppl who get told they can't have kids who end up having them.. Our great doctors lol.

I'm sure you wouldn't change things for the world (your kids) now that you have them though

After having tubes tied... wow.... that would have been a bit of a shock for them.

It's funny how things work in mysterious ways isn't it.

From what I can gather it is easier to adopt a child that has been in your foster care rather than go through everything that is needed to adopt a child, which is why I would choose that route.
I am the same as you, it would be very hard to "give up" a child you have cared for. Sometimes there are children who only need a home for a short while though.

xx K

xx K

That is great that you are able to say that RGG and get on with your life to be able to spread your love rather than let it control your life. 

You do have oodles of love and luckily there will be many people around you who will receive your love and be all the better for it. Then they can pass on the love that you give to them and oh how wonderful your gifts will be.

xx K

Organic Girl thanks so much for sharing your experience with endometriosis.  It gives me hope that mine will eventually be gone completely too    

Since going 'healthier' with my diet (even before raw), it has lessened.  First it was noticeable as only having pain about every 3 months instead of every month.  Now I think I've gone longer, but this month had some pain with it again.  Strange to note that my pain has not been in time with menses, but a week or so pre-menses.  Everyone's different even with it!  Great to hear you showed the doctors wrong with conceiving your lovely children too    Funnily enough I've been told that my ovaries seem clear of endometriosis and I shouldn't have trouble conceiving if I wanted to try.  But really, what do doctors know, evidently

Harley your input on the topic has been great to read.  Glad to know someone else out there shares my views on overpopulation, I tell ya!!!!