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« on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

Hi Ladies,

I'm just wondering who else here has had a free or unassisted birth as this is what I am planning for the birth of Bhala at Easter next year. For anyone who doesn't know what it is, it means birthing at home without the presence of a midwife or obstetrician.

I have no urge to have people around me when I'm in labour and want to be alone or just with my partner masssaging and toning and doing nipple stimulation to help me dilate. I find with people around it's too arousing and distracting as I'm such a social person and also feel other's expectations on how I "should" labour. I just want top be left alone to tune into my body and the baby and dow what feels right.

Anyway, would love to hear from people who have birthed this way, are intending to birth this way, or those who are freaked out by the concept and feel the need to share their fears with me.

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

Hey Georgia, Good for you knowing what you want. I can't identify with it at all. I like help! Plenty of women do this, it's such a natural thing.

One of the things I love about you is your ability make a descision andto do things your own terms... your way!

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

I am not pregnant at the moment, but am planning to be by Christmas next year. I have looked into this myself and am considering going down this route, if not then at home with a midwife.

I saw the most beautiful picture of a woman giving birth unassisted on the net the other day. The baby was born straight into her arms. If you can handle it, are confident, have support and have a strong body & health then more power to you I say. That picture really inspired me, I felt so empowered as a woman. I spent the evening raving about it much to the amusement of my husband who told me to calm down, I wasnt there yet!  laugh
I hope I dont have any difficulties and am able to give birth like that.

With the exception of emergencies/difficult pregnancies, I feel like doctors and hospitals actually create a negative and stressful environment to birth, when it is actually the most natural process. They strip women of their confidence that they cannot birth without assistance. But its what we were meant to do. We can do it.

I've read many stories about unnecessary surgeries and practices that caused stress during delivery, when if left to her own instincts the mother could have birthed naturally.

I am in admiration of your strength to give birth this way, your choice, the most natural way. I really look forward to you sharing more with us when the time comes!

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

Hi Georgia,

I gave birth to my son alone.

The experience was memorable and I wish I did the same with my first three babies.

I highly recommend unassisted birth, especially if you have no urge to have people around.

With hubby presented in the next room and children sleeping, I was able to concentrate with increased awareness, and that experience alone was amazing.

When my son was born, it was as if we were celebrating together, something that only two of us share, like teamwork, and it is always with me.

I totally understand why you want to do it alone.

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

I am having my first baby at home, with just Gary, and a midwife present.

If all goes according to plan, the second child will be born unassisted.

I would like this first baby to be born unassisted too, but Gary is reluctant. (Im secretly hoping to only ring the midwife at the last moment!) 
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

Hi Georgia and all you other beautiful bellies,
I had a homebirth with a midwife the first time and then an unassissted with my second. An absoltuely amazing empowering experience that i am definately doing again. Have you checked out the Joyous Birth and Purebirth Australia sites? Heaps of freebirthers, homebirthers, etc there and lots of great info.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 December, 2007 »

Hi Georgia

I've had 5 homebirths out of 6. The first was a homebirth transfer but that was because the midwives I had were still working in the hospital systems as well as homebirthing and were too system.

My second was born with just a friend and midwife present. My third was born with another friend present and he came before the midwife arrived. The next 3 were all born just in the presence of my midwife.

I've had the same midwife for all 5 homebirths and she is wonderful and doesn't interfere in any way and just lets you go with whatever you want to do.

I thought about unassisted homebirth a lot with my last pregnancy (she is now 2) but my late husband was a very traditional man in his cultural beliefs and birthing was 'women's business' and I never had anyone else around that I could trust and rely on so I went with my midwife.

I believe that birthing is a natural process and definately believe that doctors and hospitals have no place in the birthing process of a normal healthy pregnancy and birth with no complications. I never saw any doctors with any of my pregnancies except at the hospital with the birth of my first.

I know for sure that if they had left me alone to trust my body he too would have been birthed at home.

It is wonderful that you have chosen to birth unassisted. The power of the 'Warrior Women' in all of us.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 December, 2007 »

Thanks for all your supportive replies Smiley

I knew that on this forum where people are making informed, personal and individualistic choices regarding their healtha nd eating habits there would be other women who would understand or would have already choasen to make similar choices around birthing. I birthed my first son naturally after a 52 hour labour...the last 5 of which were at the hospital becuase my son's dad freaked out and rang an ambulance when I wanted to birth at home unassisted. THis time my new partner is all for homebirthing and wants a lotus birth..as do I. And I'm confident to birth at home without a midwife, what's coming up for me at present is the realisation that I don't even really want him here!! I truly want to be ALONE with the baby so I cna focus on us and our journey of birthing together and not be distracted by anyone. And yet I know that he is so keen to be at the birth and to experience it with me.

This dance of balancing our individual needs/wants with those of being in relationship with others is coming up for me in a big way at present. My partner Martin, myself (5 months pregnant) and my almost 5 year old son from a previous relationship have all just moved in together and I'm finding myself really challenged on how to respect myself and my own body clock and biological urges (like when to sleep and eat and exercise) and my primal mothering instincts and how to be in relationship with a man who's own needs and biorythms and habits are so different to mine.

I'm confused as to how to meet our needs for self and at the same time how to meet the needs of a family/relationship. I had basically worked out how to be a mother and still have myself and now I have added a man and soon to be another child to this equation and feel like I'm floundering. The thought of parenting two children alone actually scares me less (and in many ways exhilerates and enlivens me) than the experience of how to mould my life with my partner. If you hadn't gathered, I'm pretty damn independent and confident...and I have seen and still see few examples around me in my community or our culture or others for that matter, where people have successfully mixed being in relationship, honouring self and nurturing a family.

I'd love to hear how other's have or are experienceing this or similar...
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 December, 2007 »

Hi OG,

Well, I congratulate you on knowing what you truly want in your births.  I myself did it the 'traditional, accepted' way in today's society.....in a hospital with a midwife and doctor.  But I don't regret it because at that time, that was the only way I knew how to give birth.......and I wanted/needed someone there who had more experience and knowledge than myself that if something went wrong, they were on hand.

To this day, I don't regret doing it that way.  If I were to give birth today, I would probably still want someone on hand in case something went wrong.......but that says more about my fear than it does about homebirths.

As for a balancing act..........speak to any woman with kids and a hubby/partner and they will tell you it's not all green grass.  I too was/am going through what you're going through at the moment....trying to balance your needs/wants with the kids' and the hubby's/partner's needs.

This certainly is an individual journey for everyone........but the feelings we have as women are the same.  We want to be nutured, loved, given our choices and respected.  We want to be acknowledged for our strengths and our sacrifices.  But what my hubby doesn't understand is that if I get that from him, his return is ten-fold. 

My main aim is to be the best I can be within myself, then I can invest more into family.  But I have come to the conclusion that I need to be confident and comfortable in my own skin, and be happy with the children.  Then, and only then, if my partner can bring a deeper goodness to my life, then we'll be happy.  I too want to bring happiness to his life, but not at the expense of my own.......which I have been doing for years and years......and STILL doing.

My hubby met me when I was 18.  We married when I was 21......that's 13 years ago.  He expects me to be the same insecure girl from way back then.......and I'm not......and I don't want to be.  He's scared that me changing is the result of me wanting to find someone else (even though I have assured him that it's not the case, and I'm working on us being together).  He needs to understand that I want to be ME in THIS relationship, and if I can't be, then it's not the best I can give.......and I'm not being who I am.

OG, have you talked to him about your fears? About your confusion?  Don't get me wrong, I believe in all relationships, we need to compromise to make the other happy, but that compromise needs to come from your heart......and it needs to come truly willingly.  Talk to him honestly. Communicate, communicate, communicate.......

And one last thing which I find extremely important........don't EVER measure your relationship with others you see around you.  Yes, by all means learn from them, listen to them, love them.......but never compare yourself to them.  It's not helpful to you or your relationship.  Just because you haven't seen people around you succeeding in what you want to achieve, it doesn't mean it's not achieveable.....and it DOESN'T mean YOU can't achieve it.  You may be that beautiful, rare case where everything falls into place for you.

We've all seen how celebrities can fake how well their relationships are going.........but that illusion doesn't just affect the celebrities.  We are not immune to pretending everything is going well in our lives.  Who you think are the 'perfect' couple are probably the couple that have the most problems behind closed doors.

OMG, I can't believe how much I've written.  So sorry for the rant and rave, but this has touched a nerve with me because, as I said, I'm struggling with this sort of battle........but I intend to win it. yahh yahh

Take very good raw care of yourself.....

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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 December, 2007 »

Georgia - I am also finding myself challenged on how to respect myself and my own body clock and biological urges (when to sleep and eat and exercise).
My husband Gary is usually hungry at different times and wants different foods, and always wants to sleep at different times to me.
This is a cause of frustration and arguements, and takes a lot of patience so that we are both happy.   
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 07 December, 2007 »

Yep, it's a challenge isn't it Jen! Such a balanacing act of self-respect and nurturance and also nurturing the relationship and respecting your partner!! And once the baby is born and you go onto it's cycles of sleep and feeds and play, you may find it even more out of synch with Gary's. Good luck and if you feel the need to chat please do PM me. As you've said before, we've had similar past health history's and now we're travelling a similar path again...weddings and babies. I'm due 6 weeks after you. How's the pregnancy going? Are you back to all raw or still finding it hard?
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 December, 2007 »

I had my 2nd and 4th child unassisted at home. I laboured mostly alone and my partner came in to catch the bub and help with the clear up. My 1st and 3rd were hospital births. The 1st because here in France there are only about 60 homebirth midwifes for the whole country and I'd never heard of the idea of choosing to go it alone, the third because I was very tired and we'd had a difficult year and I wanted the rest of a few days in hospital being looked after, it was a nice birth but you really can't beat the shear extatic feeling of a freebirth. I found both freebirth labours more intense and painfull, I'm not sure why perhaps the knowing that everything is in your hands and you can't hand it over to someone else. I wasn't afraid though, I read alot and had a game plan in case of an emergency.
I spent alot of time on the forum at www.bornfree.com there is a lot of info and great women on there, quite a number now having their first baby unassisited.
I really hope you manage to have the birth you want.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 December, 2007 »

hi georgia

my 2nd child was birthed unassisted.  i too wanted to be completely alone, yet wanted dp to be part of the experience.  it worked perfectly.  i'd arranged support of 2 midwives willing to come, if required, at a phone call, or to advise over phone, & one had offered to sit in her car outside until/unless invited in. wasn't necessary, but i'm glad i did this, only because it gave dp total peace of mind that SOMEONE could help if he felt unable to deal with an emergency. and his peace of mind left him free to support me 100% with out fear/worry laugh

he was in the shed working for 2 hours of labour, then came in & took care of heating, bath, & held me when i stopped to rest. essentially i had the solitutude i'd craved + the silent support i needed.  he mostly sat quietly in a corner till i yelped to quick come & catch baby (i was in an awkward position). 

i found awesome support at purebirth-australia.com and bornfree.com.  + there's some great books on the topic.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 January, 2008 »

Hi wondferul women, mothers and mothers-to-be

I've read this thread with great interest and I have so much respect for your thoughts and challenges, your courage and sensitivities.

I would like to throw just one thing in the pot that may give you a bit more perspective on this 'having it all and staying balanced' issue.

I am 41 and would absolutely love to be married and have children. Despite my very best efforts to the contrary, I have never been able to manage this (yet!).....so my personal perspective is that I believe you are sooooo lucky to have children and partners at all, even if it is a struggle to make it all work beautifully sometimes! Of course it is human nature to want to learn and grow and be better  - but please don't forget the extraordianry gifts you have right in front of your eyes!!!

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 January, 2008 »

oh Sam,you are beautiful......

so right on.....
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