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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 January, 2008 »

Hi Rowdy,

Like most of us on here yes I am possessed and for a very good reason. We feel great eating and doing what we do.

And you are right, your email like the others does not help me. I am still increasingly curious about the effects of NOT consuming vegetables.

I'm just not sure how to word the question any more...I just want to know if I am missing out on any vitamins and or nutrients by not consuming any vegetables. And please, I don't stop and listen to my body like everyone else on here else I wouldn't drink wine would I?

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 January, 2008 »

My apologies Greg - I was just trying to help.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 January, 2008 »

Hmmm...I thought I was asking a simple question. I will try one more time. Am I missing out on any nutirients and or vitamins et al by not consuming any and or minimal vegetables?

And please refrain from advising me what my body and or mind tells me...I am asking as a WHOLE ARE WE missing out?

I'm sorry, but sometimes asking a question on this board is like plucking teeth.

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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 January, 2008 »

I hope this helps you Greg...

I find The World's Healthiest Foods website provides some useful information, and the following link lists the nutrients that are essential. If you go through them they also includes major sources - you could check if you are eating food for each nutrient.

http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php

If you aren't eating the major sources you could go through and check the nutritional profiles of each food you do tend to eat on the food list here...

http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

Of course we don't know if this info is correct but may serve as a research startpoint.
Good luck and I hope you find the answer you seek  laugh
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 26 January, 2008 »

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 27 January, 2008 »

I think Greg may want to know which ones and why...I too would like some more clarification on this point of view. Like a doc might tell me to "eat meat - you need it" I wouldn't just blindly believe him!
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 27 January, 2008 »

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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 27 January, 2008 »

Thanks Jungle...we're on exactly the same page.  rofl

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 27 January, 2008 »

Okay I've been over at nutritiondata.com (good site!) doing some comparisons.

1 cup chopped carrot (128g) contains:

428% of recommended daily intake (RDI) of vit A
4% of RDI calcium
13% of RDI of vit C
2% of RDI of iron

1 cup chopped kale (67g) contains:

206% of RDI of vit A
9% of RDI of calcium
134% of RDI of vit C
6% of RDI of iron

Obviously this is only a small snapshot of two vitamins and two minerals but from this, I can't see how you would be better off with carrot than kale. You get more of everything other than vitamin A with kale, and you still have more than double what they say you need.

Can anyone find out anything that is in root veggies but not leafy greens??  shrug
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« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

RGG,

Can you explain what's caused you to change your mind about the need for veggies?  I'm currently of the view that vege's aren't necessary for reasons such as,
1. There doesn't appear to be any nutrients that are only in vegetables.
2. Most, if not all vegetables are tough to digest in their natural state (at least compared to fruits and tender greens).
3. According to VB in Green For Life other anthropoids only consume veg as a last resort.
4. Veges don't taste that great to me in their natural state.

If you have other knowledge I want to know what it is.

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

There are so many phytonutrients that havent even been discovered or named yet.......

Maybe even a scientist can't tell you EXACTLY what you are missing out on by excluding a whole raw food group..  ?

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

Thanks Jen.  That's what I thought too, but then wouldn't it make sense to eat raw meat and eggs just in case there's an undiscovered nutrient that occurs only in them?
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« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

Indeed RNJ....(re: phytonutrients...and probably a number of other things).

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It would be a super arrogant fool who does not realise that in many ways (and if ya think about it...the most important ways)...the world is still flat...

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« Reply #28 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

That is the million dollar question that I have been asking of late, after having such a 'restricted' / limited diet over the last few years.

example:  the concepts of ormus or glyconutrients, which are still being discovered/explained/identified further.

Similar to what Neet is going through, ...   I used to feel fantastic on just fruit and greens for extended periods of time. It got to the stage where I had no desire for vegetables whatsoever. Especially root vegetables. Yuck. The more and more fruit I ate, that is all I wanted.

Morning sickness forced me to change my diet, whether I wanted to or not. This was unexpected. I had anticipated continuing throughout my pregnancy to eat mainly fruit and greens, with a few tomatoes, cucumbers, avocados and coconuts thrown in. Apparently the baby / universe had other plans!

Now I feel fantastic including a wider variety of foods, such as vegetables and some animal products. I still have the desire to eat just as many greens and fruit, too. Also, foods that I had no desire (or need??) for for years are starting to become desirable again (such as fish, and crunchy veg like carrot and red cabbage), and actually make me feel good (physically, not just mentally/emotionally).

Which leads me to the conclusion that my body is gaining something that it needs from them, that I had been lacking in  (or perhaps the growing baby needs these nutrients).

I would personally rather experiment with any new foods, whether they are raw or cooked, and vegan or non-vegan, rather than reaching for a supplement pill.

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 28 January, 2008 »

Thanks for sharing that Jen.  Very interesting and helpful.

I just had this thought that maybe as the body becomes cleaner and able to assimilate more of the calories consumed, our need for fruit diminishes and vegetables start become an option again.  Although that doesn't really make sense considering your body started asking for vegetables during pregnancy, when more calories are required.  Just a random thought that popped into my head.

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