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« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

Amen Rudy..

Annette....I'm trying to be as gentle as I possibly can with you...

So If I sound harsh please take a step back and think about the motives (mine).

You are sick of the mental abuse....

I really dunno how to handle this...but I can assure you beyond any shadow of a doubt that I have endured more mental abuse than most. Even recently a friend of mine I had not seen for years remarked to me "I really dunno how you handled that (x) time...I've never seen anyone go through as much * as you"...and that has been said a few times to me over my life.

My point Annette is I understand mental abuse and being dealt crap...I understand it intimately.

The "mental abuse" will stop when you want it too.

When you decide you have had enough of it...when YOU decide to remove it's power over you.

You are not going to wake up one morning and by some "miracle" it all goes away. It doesn't work that way. YOU have to take responsibility.

YOU!!!!

If you make that decision be prepared to be tested...because you WILL be....then walk straight through it.

You are way stronger than you think you are.

I could go on...but enough fer now...

John
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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

that was beautiful Rudolf.

Funny, you say about the having learnt and having experienced every situation.  The other day I had this beautiful feeling inside that when I leave this place that I wouldn't be back that this would be the last time and that my husband and I would be together forever.   That we had shared many lives together before but this time we would get it right and be together forever...our reward.  It was such a peaceful and loving feeling.

I release the need for other people's love and approval.
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

John, today is that day, that I make a stance.  The universe has dealt me many situations similar to this and I still keep dancing the same dance and today it stops.

I am sorry to hear of your pain but I am sure it has made you the person you are today.

All my love,
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

glad for You Annette, and John is right.

I just feel like adding this :

is the learning completed, the same way as is done in TLT, when we get to the point of seeing the old stuff and feeling it, we need to get the full learning from it.

Once we get the full learning from it, it is no longer needed, the emotion can be deleted, or the whole memory can be deleted about this.


so similarly, if You get full learning learning from the abuse it is no longer needed and it just continues on its own
momentum not serving anything else.

So I am asking again did You already got the full learning which You wantyed to get from this experience in this life

or do You still need to meditate on this some more, and ask Universe - please give me the full, and complete learning from all of this, than You know You ready to give it all up and never experience again.
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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

okay Rudolf
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

This is pretty powerful stuff....

You're right on the edge of something really life-changing Annette....

Jump.

Have faith and Jump.

John

NO FEAR

NO FEAR

NO FEAR

NO FEAR
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

thanks John
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

HI Annette,

I don't know what to say. I couldn't read all of your post as it brought up a lot of my own pain... but I know that you have some great support here with John and Rudy. I've spoken to John a few times and I believe that he is so sosososososososoooooooo sincere in everything he says. He is very kind and gentle!

I wish that I could help you in some way.

xoxoxox
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

John <------has picture in head....

Me and Rudy and Annette standing on the edge of a cliff....

Rudy has his new ACME Aluminium foil anti-negative-vibe shield helmet on...I'm having a cold beer...we look down and here's these huge Great White sharks swimming in the ocean below the 300 foot drop.

I wave to Cyril and Eugene (great white sharks) and Rudy and I take Annettes hands...a crowd gathers behind us and Annette wonders if Rudy and i are having an acid flashback...as we launch off the cliff....

The thing is...a sense of humour is hard to convey on here...and sometimes we all take ourselves wayyyy to seriously...

And sometimes when and if we face our fears they become paper tigers.


And there's something very special about you Jen...I can feel it in your voice when we have spoken. There is a strength in your voice...maybe you haven't fully met your own strength yet....but...you will....you will...


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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

i am so right there with you guys....so right there!!!!
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

I am just hoping, that this clown from Who Dares Wins, will not turn up with the camera and ask me to go cliff jumping with John and Annette.


John You right about Jennie,
I might have already told her or nor ?

but she is one of the angels in human bodies, I have the picture too about her,

I can see the hotbaloon tight up to ground by ropes and loaded with sand bags, and she is inside the basket slowly
undoing 1 rope at a time, kicking out 1 sandbag at a time having a rest and so on, but 1 day the baloon will rise
into the sky and she will let her full angelness shine, not blocked by any human crap any more.
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

Guys thank you for what you say. I am going to send you both a pm later. I have some stuff that I would like some help with if you wouldn't mind?

xoxoxox
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

Jennie You need 2 guys to take care of Your stuff Huh

Well OK I am a game laugh
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

 Rudy my picture of Jen...for some reason...was a warrior princess...I have no idea why I hold that view...but After speaking with her on the phone a few times that view is strengthened.

We all have our roles to play in the unfolding (soon to be rapidly unfolding) drama of the evolution of this Universe.

Funny that a few "knights" have met...of all places...on a Raw Food Forum....on the Internet thingy...

As Les would say.

HOKAHEY!!!!!

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« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 30 January, 2008 »

Jennie You need 2 guys to take care of Your stuff Huh

Well OK I am a game laugh

Rudy, just some pointers. Sometimes it is easier to see things from the outer than the inner. I am trying to work out this thing by myself.... there may  be some insights that I would prefer to hear quietly if you get my meaning.

Right now though I am about to go and make an apple cobbler for Bill, Stine and myself. Yummmmm!

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