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« on: Thursday 20 March, 2008 »

On Friday 16 November 2007 under “hair beauty tips” - I wrote this about coconut oil…………

"On the rare occasions I have used it in my hair; it has always been a bit of a disaster.

As despite washing and re-washing my hair, I have found the oil very hard to remove - even though the label on the tub says it’s ideal for hair.

So my questions are:

1) How much oil do you use?
2) How long do you leave it on?
3) Do you apply it to completely dry, wet or towel dried hair?
4) How do you remove it? With water? With Shampoo? Or do you just leave it in your hair?

I have left it in my hair before, as I had problems washing it out. My hair did not look healthy and thick; I just looked like Elvis on a greasy bad hair day.

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Well in the four months since my original posting, I have tried coconut oil in my hair hundreds of times BUT I still look like Elvis on a greasy bad hair day.

WHY WHY WHY???

I have been on thousands of coconut oil / natural beauty websites and they all say the same thing:.....

“Achieve beautiful, gorgeous, silky, soft, shiny and healthy hair”...... by applying coconut oil.

Well, it aint working for me.

It still looks like I have stuck my head in a bucket of KFC.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?

AHHHHH - PLEASE ADVISE.......

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 March, 2008 »

I put it on to straight dry hair and forgot to mention even after i wash my hair when its a little wet oil is easier to put on, then i plate my hair in tiny little dread locks and go to bed. I dont use that much oil. I use as much to cover the ends and leave my scalp a little drier. Ill only dab bits hear and there for the scalp as i have this problem with getting oil off my scalp. So concentrate on the ends more as the oil fuses itself to your scalp through your hair shaft. Put some on your scalp as you would hair straightening cream. Rub it in your hads and rub your fingers through scalp(play with it like gelling). Your whole scalp does not need all the scalp oiled. You will still see the same end results.

Then i wash it out twice the next day and blow dry and my hair is soft and silky, not to mention shiny as the blow dryer heat fuses the shine. Not many people like to use blow dryers as it can damage the hair but eh i dont mind.
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 March, 2008 »

Some people do better dampening their hair a bit first, just misting it with some water.

The problem could be in the amount your using, less is definitely more with oil. I agree with putting it on your ends, not the scalp. When i use it i only use enough to create a sheen on my hands, basically i rub some into my hands first and when its fairly well rubbed in i run my hands along the ends of my hair. It doesnt seem like much but its enough to care for your ends.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 March, 2008 »

Thank you.

From reading both your posts, I think I must be using too much.

I have been using a teaspoon full but I will try just getting a thin coating on both palms.

Will also only do the ends and avoid the scalp.

Will give the hairdryer a go, as normal air dry naturally.

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 March, 2008 »

Hey KittyK

I've found the trick to removing the oil is to apply shampoo to your hair without water (instead of wetting the hair first and then applying the shampoo).  Work it through your hair as much as you can, rinse and then shampoo again if you need to. 

This has always worked for me, and I used to use olive oil which is much thicker.  And my scalp was very dry before raw, so I used heaps of oil from the scalp to the ends. 
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 April, 2008 »

I've found the trick to removing the oil is to apply shampoo to your hair without water (instead of wetting the hair first and then applying the shampoo).  Work it through your hair as much as you can, rinse and then shampoo again if you need to. 

This works well - thank you very much for the tip. It felt very weird doing it though, just so odd. However, my hair has had a really soft feel and shine since doing it. So I may do it everytime, not just when I am using coconut oil.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 April, 2008 »

Does anyone use coconut oil as a skin moisturizer? I've used it in the tropics no problem - beautiful, soft, springy skin. But back home in Melbourne I break out with millia and my skin just gets drier and drier, as though osmosis is taking place and the oil is just sucking my natural skin oils out!

What experiences does anyone else have?

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 April, 2008 »

According to Ayurveda, coconut oil is a drying oil, it feels rich, but it mainly sits on the skin rather than nourish it. It work a bit like mineral oil in that it puts a protective coating over the skin, which is great if your skin is well hydrated and has a good lipid balance, it keeps it like that; but if your skin is dehydrated or lipid dry, it can aggrevate it.
People think it is hydrating in hot climates because it helps to keep you skin super hydrated by keeping the sweat under the coconut oil layer, reabsorbs into the skin = super hydrated; in cooler weather, without the sweat, it really isn't the best oil to be using.

I use and recommend jojoba. This is about the cheapest place you can get it www.jojocare.com.au  jojoba is almost the same composition as the skin's own sebum, it's the best sebum regulator out there, great eye makeup remover, great cleanser (put on dry skin rub in, rub a bit of water in, it will looosen up all the grime, rinse off), great as a moisturiser,  great for exzema, great for cradle cap, great for fur balls for cats, great for dry itchy skin, great for oily skin, great in hair as a conditioner. Easily washes out, because everything thinks it is the skin's own sebum. You don't need to use much, a little goes a long way.  You just get a sheen on you from jojoba, not that slimey oil slick you can get with other oils (mainly because it is a plant wax rather than an oil) It doesn't got rancid, so MUCH longer shelf life than oils.


Using shampoo before adding water you HAVE to do after a lot of Ayurvedic treatments - trying to get the oil out after a shirodhara treatment is serious work if you put water in first. (that usually uses sesame oil, but can be buttermilk etc, depends on what it is treating, but generally most people need an oil shirodhara)
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 April, 2008 »

I use it on my hands, but only occasionally, and i put it on straight after a shower, maybe the moisture in the bathroom helps it work better, it seems to help.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 April, 2008 »

Thanks Melb - that certainly nails down the tropics vs home experience! Thanks also for advice on jojoba - really interesting!

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 April, 2008 »

Perhaps I shouldn't be putting coconut oil on my skin afterall, will look into jojoba.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 April, 2008 »

Does anyone use coconut oil as a skin moisturizer? I've used it in the tropics no problem - beautiful, soft, springy skin. But back home in Melbourne I break out with millia and my skin just gets drier and drier, as though osmosis is taking place and the oil is just sucking my natural skin oils out! What experiences does anyone else have?

Maybe it is the brand you are using?

I am currently using coconut oil as a cleanser and evening moisturiser.

I have tried four or five different brands, with varying degrees of success.

The brand I am currently using is the very best I have ever used -  and it tastes really yummy too - I got it from this website:

http://www.raw-pleasure.com.au/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,620/category_id,29/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,49/

It is far superior to any brand I have used in the past.

I am using it as a cleaner, moisturiser, as a hair conditioner, as massage oil, spread on date scones, in green smoothies. Even my cats like the taste.

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 April, 2008 »

great for fur balls for cats

How does this work?

Do you rub it on your cats fur or add it to their food?

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 22 April, 2008 »

for fur balls, just get a syringe (without the needle) and squirt it in, they don't appreciate it.  Seems to work better than any any of the mineral oil based ones the vets have available, the paraffinum ones tend to loosen things up for longer than required, jojoba seems to just loosen up the hairbball then back to normal.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 26 April, 2008 »

 yahh yahh yahh

To everyone lovely who talked about jojoba oil. Wow! I went to my local health food store and bought a small bottle as an experiment. Whoohoo! This stuff is INCREDIBLE! I have tetchy skin to say the least, so am always a bit wary of trying new stuff, whether conventional, organic or the organic stuff that is filled with conventional products... [!!]

Jojoba oil is amazing. It doesn't sit on the surface, it doesn't dry my skin out, it doesn't leave my skin tough or sticky. It sinks right in and softens my skin - all over, even the dry bits on elbows and heels. It doesn't feel like I'm drowning in oil, I'm not shiny or drippy. It doesn't sting, itch, make me red, whatever.

But the most incredible part is how soft my skin is. It hasn't been this soft for a very. very long time. (Anyone remember the 80s???! LOL!)

THank you thank you thank you Melb, you were absolutely right.

I'll stop raving now!

xxx Niqi
 yahh yahh yahh
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