wht do you want to be supervised kk?

Where are you thinking of going KK?

I did a month-long stint on a health farm Jan '07 up on the Sunshine Coast.

A truly memorable experience.

John

Try John Fielder. He away overseas at the moment so he may not be able to reply to his email.
Best of luck
Nic

Oh, OK we are talking cross purposes here.

I don’t want to do a water fast.

I want to do a vegetable juice fast (similar to the one Angela Stokes did in Costa Rica)

I have found water fasting to be horrible. I get very weak, lethargic and feel depleted very quickly.

With vegetable juice fasting I feel really good and can still function. I have also found that my UC totally clears up when I do vegetable juice fasting (water fasting does not seem to help it at all)

 

I think the word fast is evolving as the language does. To me, fasting now means and absence of solid foods. As a child I would often chew on grass and fruit and spit out the fiber. Used to drive my mother mad at the waste. My daughter does it now with oranges mainly.

Just goes to show we are all different.

xoxxo

i'd actually side with jim on this one. the definition of a fast has not so much "evolved," but moreso been corrupted and altered. similar to "paranoid" - which now seems to be universally accepted as just another word for worried.

according to the older texts from the time the concept of planned fasting arose, it is to go without all food (that which contains nutrient) taking water only. juicing and long term mono-eating are actually forms of diet - not in the weight watchers sense but in a "what one eats" sense.

very, very different things occur when you consume only water for an extended period. the level of cleansing and repair that the body is able to achieve (provided rest etc are provided) far outweighs the changes that occur whilst the body is still receiving nutrients. this is similar to the rather large chasm between 95% raw and 100% raw - it doesn't seem that different, but does make a big difference to the body. fasting supervisors have noticed this difference, therefore the two need to be differentiated.

this doesn't mean that juice diets aren't beneficial, they are just different and yield different results.

at the end of the day it all comes down to semantics, which nobody will agree on. it's just that i'm an obsessive-compulsive anal-retentive purist who can't stand to see the english language fall apart any further.

good luck with whatever you do KK - i'll butt-out now.

If I were sticking with the purist view, I suppose I should say juice feasting diet instead of juice fasting.

But as I am not sticking with the purist view, I will keep calling it juice fasting.

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QUOTE FROM PAGE 10 OF “THE JUICE FASTING BIBLE” BY SANDRA CABOT. M.D.:

Seek out a dozen or so people with personal knowledge of fasting and ask them to define it, and you will likely get half a dozen different answers.

To certain purists, the only true fast is one in which you abstain from all food and drink, with the exception of pure water.

A devout Muslim would define fasting as neither eating nor drinking from dawn to sunset every day during the holy month of Ramadan.

I myself (as in Sandra Cabot) believe that while juice fasting may not be a “true” fast, it is the best of all round options because of the all-round  benefits you will receive.

Let me quote Paavo Airola, Ph.D. and N.D. (doctor of naturopathic medicine), who is a well-known believer in juice fasting, who says it as well as anyone ever has done:

The proponents of the water fast like to tell you that the juice fast is not a fast, it is a liquid diet.

They misunderstand the therapeutic meaning of fasting. Any condition when your body is encouraged to initiate the process of autolysis, or self-digestion, is fasting.

During juice fasting, when no solid foods, proteins or fats are consumed, your body will decompose and burn all the diseased and inferior protein and fat tissues, just as it does during the water fast.

The only difference between juice fast and the water fast is that during the juice fast your body’s eliminative and detoxifying capacity is increased; the healing processes are speeded up and you feel less debilitated.

But if someone insists on calling this superior method a juice diet, instead of a juice fast, let him do it if it makes him happy”.

QUOTE FROM PAGE 10 OF “FRESH VEGETABLE AND FUIT JUICES WHAT’S MISSING FROM YOUR BODY” BY N.W. WALKER D.SC:

“It is foolish to say that juices are a concentrated food. Nothing could be further from the truth. A concentrated food is a product that has been dehydrated, from which its water content has been dissipated.

Juices on the other hand are very liquid food, mostly organic water of the finest quality with nourishing atoms and molecules in comparatively microscopic volume. It is the microscopic volume for which the cells and tissues of the body are depleted.

Raw vegetable juices are readily and quickly assimilated by the human body. Because the juices are organic or live food, the regenerate the entire body with surprisingly rapid results”.

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Anyway each to their own.

I am going to keep calling it a juice fast, you can call it what you want.

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