how do you work out how much cals you use in a day?  Its a bit scientific to be exact isn't it - i mean its not something you can just guess...

Jungle,

Thanks for the info.  To be honest it sounds really complicated.  I might just
buy an already established tree (a little one) instead of attempted to grow
from seed.

Thanks again,
S.

persimmons take about 4-5 years to bear usually so don't make it to small now - or you'll be in suspense!

I've recently tripled my food intake. I didn't think I should as I had been told not to exercise for three months as I'm one of those "adrenally fatigued people"! However I did anyway. I figured that my body needed energy to get through.

Since I've done that I've dropped another 4 kg. Last night I banged my knuckle and was shaking it as you do, you know, hand pointed toward body and shaking it up and down to make it feel better? Anyhow, my wedding ring flung off! On hands and knees trying to find it. And I did. Can't believe the amount I am dropping. I might even have to take a wander over to fitday and have a look at what I'm  putting in now.

I eat until I feel superfull every three hours now. I'm feeling better after just a few weeks. However, I'm only at the beginning.

More food and I'm dropping weight! Excellent...

xosoxo

Annette, you are not eating enough to lose weight. Your body thinks that it is in starvation mode so it is going to hang on to everything. As long as you are eating good healthy food you definately need to up your food intake. You need to add at least 500cal per day in my opinion.
Once a week it is quite good to give your body a real shake and have a bit of a splurge, this ups your metabolism as it thinks it is going to be fed more so it turns up the furnaces! then the next day go back to your normal eating.
I used to absolutley pig out every Sunday, I would eat so much I couldn't move, then on Monday get back to proper portions. My body fat got so low from doing this.
From what you are saying you are eating low cal and not losing, so don't be scared you will do really well if you up your intake. I have lost weight consistantly on about 1700cal per day, below that it didn't move. I do not come from naturally thin stock so have to eat well and exercise.
I agree with Hubbie - Give it a go!
kk

what happens to drug ripped body builders the week after competition is over?
they bloat out massively. they start eating all the foods they avoided and the body retains fluid. its not possible to increase body fat % that fast in a week or a few days. its just fluid retention from toxic foods. the body builders where still eating toxic foods before the comp, but just a real restricted amount.

i like using your average body builder, model etc as example of the yo yo diet lifestyle and its affects.

someone doing a water fast can gain 'weight' by adding salt to the water they are drinking. have they gained body fat? NO! its just fluid retention from a toxic substance. how much does pesticide resiudes, the toxins produced from cooking, boiling, steaming, microwaving foods contribute to fluid retention?

i could slap on 10kg in a week for sure. just give me cooked food. but it wont be fat i will be adding, just fluid retention as the bodies solution to pollution is dillution!

when we eat sufficient calories to maintain an active lifestyle we loose the guilt that this 'slim for summer' society puts on us. and i might add, unfairly puts on females more than men. if your a guy and got a six pack and wearing a suit, your gonna look pretty 'skinny' but if you got a 40kg beer gut under a suit, your 'in robust health and one of the boys'... we gotta laugh at the maddness! lol!

so what to do?
eat foods that agree with us.
i eat mono meals for optimum digestion. i dont do it to keep slim and trim, thats just an added bonus when we are looking after our health. i eat this way cos it makes me feel great. when we do great things for our body and soul, it does great things back to us. and longterm! not just a flash in the pan fitness craze for a few years only to crash and burn and take up the sport spectator lifestyle that we see majority of crew doing..

i dont eat cooked food.
cooked food just aint food for me now. people say 'what about broccoli and potatoes?' yeah what about em? they aint human food in my eyes. they gotta be cooked to even digest half as good. its like me smashing the window to get in the house. JUST USE THE DOOR! lol! just eat foods that work for us!

societys eating second rate foods and getting second rate results. across the hall from me i can hear babies screaming as they get jabbed with needles for immunisation. i know i can walk in there and the parents will protest at my organic health advice. the babies will agree but because we humans are incurably arrogant, we learn the hard way or not at all.

starvation diets never work. juice feasts never work. they just buy us time from the abuse that will soon start again cos we failed to pay attention to what really works. failed to observe mother nature and her wishes.

fear of second rate food is healthy. fear of fresh sweet fruit and tender greens aint. we must have love and appreciation for real food and in real amounts that nourishes our soul. nourishes the planets soul.

i just ate 18 large cert organic bananas. it barely touched the sides. i would have downed 30+ if i had more. did a hard ride yesterday and have a race on saturday. my body knows the routine. carbs in, push the pedals, more carbs please. as soon as i miss enough carbs performance goes down. does with everyones athletic performance. not enough sugar in the cells? you aint going nowwhere fast. not with out drug stimulation anyway.

people just gotta read 811 till they get it. you dont know what to do? then do the opposite of what society is doing! lol! join the ranks of those whom dont feel guilty for eating. whom experience the best health they've ever had and are setting personal best in all aspects of their lives. live closer to nature and reap the rewards.

but dont we have to take is slowly?
NO! if we are looking after a herion junkee and trying to help em, do we just give em less junk? or just cut off their supply? if someone is addicted to headbutting the wall, or being with a violent partner, do we cut down their visits or headbanging to a few times a week? NO! we cut out the abuse as fast as possible. same goes for abuse via diet, abuse via mental outlook. extreme addiction requires extreme discipline. we must nip it in the bud, before its nips us in the bud!

how long must the violence go on? we all know someone whom had died from chemo, surgery, heart attack, suicide etc. isnt that extreme? eating whole foods aint extreme. eating the fat levels down to levels recomended by ALL the leading respectable passionate health researchers out there aint extreme. cutting down forrests to plant grain and animals for food is extreme. lying to people that they need this and that is extreme.

anyone read aajonus vonderplanitz book on raw meat eating? he is a hollywood script writer. he is a dangerous fraud. he aint even raw himself. he recomends white bread with raw butter. yet i know people destroying their health by following his hollywood diet.

lets get in touch with our heartfelt intuition. what other animal cooks its food? NONE!
when you see a nest you want to raid it? you see a cow, goat, sheep, horse lactating, you wanna guzzle?
you see lambs playing in the field, you wanna eat em?

lets put an end to the extremo lies and fries and start being honest with what works and what doesnt.
we can chase our tails and deny our instincts and get the results that everyone else is gett'n.

the only time i've liked raw broccoli was when i was pregnant and craved it for a few days...interestingly enough it is high in COQ10 and my naturopath had just suggested that to help my wavering immune system i should take it as a supplement and my body was already craving it naturally!!!

I like raw brocolli florets if there cut up small. If i have alot it doesnt digest well, but a bit in a salad is nice, at one point i was really craving salads with brocolli.

I wouldnt eat potato raw, but my hubby will and likes it (he used to pinch it while i cut it up). I used to have a cat that loved raw potato too. I realise theres a bit of fear bout poisoning with green potatoes but i cant imagine its any more a risk than eating a cooked green potato (and i used to do that, peel the skin, never got sick). Honestly though i think potato can be eaten raw, the reason i dont is because it just doesnt taste that good.

This topic of raw potato came up in my house only a few nights ago when we had a mate over and i was saying how i havent had potato in ages, cant eat it raw. At this hubby quickly disputed this and reminded me he liked it raw. The discussion then led to oh yeah i love potato, but only because of all thats added to it, you know baked in oils, mashed with butter. So maybe we need to think a little outside the box with this one, does anything really 'need' to be cooked.

Peoples preferences for what veges are nice raw seem to vary greatly, ive found this just between me and my husband, maybe its just tastes, maybe its a sign of different nutritional needs.

Hubby also used to love raw cabbage as a kid, and his mother would pack a container of it cut up for his lunchbox. I remember thinking ick when i heard this story originally, now i see how great it was that he chose to eat something like raw cabbage because it tasted good to him when he could have had something cooked and processed.