Why is pigging out on fruit your answer to everything DR?

I beg to differ, just eating fruit makes you want to eat all day.. fruit call it suger or call it carbs its both and still makes you want to binge.. when do you ever just have one banana, or one apple? and feel content!

But have one apple with 6 almonds or a grated apple in a sprout salad and you would more than likely be satisfied... it can be about Quality not Quantity.....

You make it look like 811 is your answer to being a Binge eater and not having to feel guilty about it..


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Using 811 as an excuse to binge eat is something that I am asked about often. I don't know enough about 811 to answer that fairly. It does seem like a way though that people could binge without looking at the emotional issues connected to it without doing undue harm to the body.

A lot healthier than binge eating other foods.

To me binge eating is when the eater is out of control of what they are putting in their mouths. Eating a lot with a clear purpose is one thing but eating whenever because the eater is not even hungry but driven to eat, eat, eat is another matter.

With the quantities of food that seem to be required for 80- 10-10 it seems that it would be very easy to hide an eating disorder. But I haven't done 811 for an extended period of time and don't truly know.

Even with my much larger quantities of eating I am still not eating enough carbs.... I actually visited nutridiary and filled it all out. Time consuming but interesting. I am eating so much that I am bursting. Uncomfortably full after every meal and still under calorised.

Mind you I didn't find out how to add the 1.5 litres of juice I'd had that day....

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Hey Harley, I have a question! At the moment I can't eat any more physically to keep up with what I need so far as intake goes.

Until my tummy stretches... what should I do? I'm already eating around 5 meals per day plus juice. I'm still eating at night. What's your advice? I"m also drinking lots of water. Not as much as I was but at least 2.5-3 litres per day.

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I think of eating a "lot" of fruit to be very much like drinking too because of the high water contents of most fruit. So not only are you getting calories, fibre, minerals, vitamins, etc, you also get water so that accounts for a large part in volume the "binge" portions of food. And I truly feel that eating juicy fruit is a better source for a large part of my water intake than plain water. So I am binge drinking as well as eating haha! Well yep that's me, on a Saturday night with my persimmons and baby spinach! 

i realise that my lifestyle is totally unrealistic for 99.99999999999% of the population. people would prefer to eat food combo's. prefer to use a car than cycle, walk etc. prefer the conveince of mainstream foods than having to ripen up boxes of bananas for themselves, prefer to take supplements than treat the cause etc. do i think the world will go to a more balanced way of living..never. too much ignorance, greed, addictions and arrogance to break thru.

in dougs books he says do not eat fats everyday. his recipies dont ALL include fats... and doug always says the most nutritious meal is the mono meal. but to sell books you gotta cater for the mainstream market..you gotta be a hypocrit somewhere... and i feel doug could have been way more hardline in 811. some recipies in 811 i wouldnt eat due to the rancid fats they incorporate.

and if we listen to the examples in nature its one type of food at a time when we are hungry till we are full. the only combo we see animals in nature in nature is greens and fruit. thats it. animals will continue eating one type of food till the hunger is satisfied. they will only eat something different if the meal wasnt enough or they got scared off.

i dont feel the body is saying thankyou for something that requires extra digestive energy.

i know plenty of crew that get unstuck with high fruit..cos they always do it wrong...they eat unripe fruit, not enough fruit, combo abombo's, not enough sleep, work in antivitamin work places breating in hardcore toxins, dont train enough, dont sleep enough, dont rest enough, dont transmutate the kundalini that rises, dont hydrate properly...its never just about the food..its hitting it from a wholistic angle. i coach people daily on low fat raw vegan..i see were people trip up. the body is a fine tuned machine. we must treat it accordingly to get the desired results.

people also have to change their identity when they change their behaviour. its one thing to say 'i dont eat animal products' and its another to say 'im vegan! and im happy to share my views on animal rights, anywhere, anytime!'

for us to last in anything it must become our identity...

we live in a society that says 'if some is good, then more must be better!' and we see that in nutritional materialism hype everywhere. people ask me 'whats the best fruit for protein?, whats the best source of omega 3?... but it doesnt matter.  cos when you get enough low fat high carb fresh calories for you lifestyle, then your getting enough nutritients. and when we eat most of our meals mono you get more absorption cos the organs dont have to break down so many different foods that require totally different enzymes etc.

today i rang up 5 of the most popular food companies in australia. i asked all of them 'how old are the grains you use in your 'fresh' baked products, how old is the oil you use?, what part of the animal is in your pies?'
NONE of them could answer any question. all i got was false charisma and constant 'why are you asking these questions? whom is this information for?' all i told em was that 'i was just another customer curious to know what im feeding my family'...

so yeah ask no questions and get some lies with your fries. if you question what society encourages your labeled as 'extreme'..

yesterday i attended an organised raw food prep event. and i know that food prep skills are essential in helping one transition to raw or more raw. it was interesting to note that all recipes had some sort of sugar. they were all sweet and juicy. we are just trying to recreate raw versions of cooked food that is eaten cos one has not supplied the body with enough fruit carbs...pizzas, breads, laksas, chocolates, etc. its all fun food and i enjoy seeing people learning that you dont have to use animal products or cooking to create dishes, but lets address the reason why we eat..for entertainment or nourishment?

one husband in the crowd protested to his partner. 'this is way too much food prep, the raw diet isnt possible for travellers...' he was looking for an excuse right there why he couldnt do raw.  i told him about my travels and how much i eat to fuel that bike mileage..he didnt want to continue the conversation..lol!

i can go to any house in australia and it will be full of refined carbs. honey, cane sugar, dextrose, grains, etc. people undereating fruit and relying on other forms of carbs to get em thru the day. health leaders knocking fruit and selling sugar in a bottle. or advising to eat grains instead. we can go around in circles but at the end of the day, EVERY cell in the body is fueled by sugar. glucose and or fructose. so anything we eat calorie wise must be turned into sugar before the body can use it as fuel. even body fat is turned into sugar to be used as fuel.

so we can use fuel, to turn fuel into useable fuel, or we can just eat it as fuel! (sweet fruit). and we have society running around undereating fruit and just reaching anywhere for carbs or sufficient calories, people diving into jars for sufficient protein cos they are undereating and need supplements, people adding refined fat in the form of oils, people stealing milk or honey from the animals to get some carbs..undereating the real deal leads to eating the non foods. people dont just cave into cooked foods etc cos of peer pressure, the most common reason is physiological. THEY AINT GETTING ENOUGH SUGAR TO THE BRAIN, and the body is say'n 'just give me anything! we are in dire situation here! its survival!'

i dont recomend a no fat diet. as even bananas and lettuce have fat. and throwing in the occasional in season fatty fruit or nut and seed is part of natures plan too. but i see problems coming up when people undereat fruit carbs and have to reach for fats to make up the calorie gap....all the most respected nutritonal health researchers like pritikin, mcdougal, barnard, ornish, campbell recomend a yearly diet of under 10% calories from fat..

the research has been done, the results speak for themselves. science proves it, and low fat raw vegan has it...

wow i love a good debate! 

refer to page 129-130 of the good book.

i used to think the same thing..its raw vegan organic it must be healthy. and yeah its healthier than a lot of stuff we used to eat. but is it the healthiest? we can only answer that question if we have an objective crack at high fat and then under 10% fat. its natures plan....no way we could live in nature on high fat diet for longer than a few weeks of the year in the cold or warm climates.

if we look at the longest lived tribes in this cooked world, the longest lived are the lowest fat  highest carb consumers...the eskimos averaged a mortality rate of 39 years due to chronic osteoporosis...

people are coming to the raw diet in droves and leaving in droves cos they are not getting the results they desired. but they just didnt do raw right...

That explains a LOT - you think of food ONLY as fuel, electrolyte balance required for osmosis etc doesn't come into it as far as you're concerned. 
We need food for a lot more than just fuel. 


Look at what the animals eat, mono meals?  No carnivore eats mono meals - it might be one animal at a time, but they are eating every bit of the animal they get a chance to, skin, fur, feathers, fat, heart, liver, kidney, stomach, endocrine glands, brain, beak, contents of the stomach/intestine..... hardly a mono meal.  Many grass eating animals like cows have multiple stomachs to break down the food because it is so hard to digest, mono meals, but not easy to digest.  If it was all about mono meals, koalas would be able to eat any type of eucalyptus but they've developed to only eat a very linmited number of eucalyptus, but then they have a 2m appendix, a supposedly useless organ.  If we ate like a koala we'd be dead.  A friend's dingo cross will climb their avocado tree to get avocados, the only thing that stops him getting them all is some are out of reach.  He will stash unripe ones to eat later.  Their other dog has to wait for avocados to drop to get them, hardly low fat sweet fruit.  Flying foxes don't eat mono, they will go from a mango tree to some other tree if it is close enough to bother, it's all about what's available and demand.