Yes if only it was that simple but then again everyone would be running around buying wholesale and all the retail stores would have to shut up shop.

If we sold wholesale to the public and wholesale to retail customers it would create a conflict of interest. The retail customers would be very angry that we were under cutting their potential profits.

From DR’s (and other forum members) experiences, it is obviously possible to buy from some organic wholesalers without a business related ABN.

Not sure what the legal implications would be for the wholesaler but if they are happy to do it, who am I to question.

I have already rung two organic wholesalers in Sydney and they both said that they won’t sell wholesale to members of the public.

I could easily consume 20kg of carrots a week but at $5.00 per kg, I limit my carrot juicing. Sometimes I can get juicing carrots at $2.00 a kilo but the markets don’t have them every week and I really need them on a regular basis. So if I could buy carrots in bulk at a wholesaler, it would be amazing.

So I would be very interested to find out the company that DR, Jim and others are managing to buy from. If they don’t want to post it here, perhaps they would be kind enough to consider sending me a PM with the details.

I thought Malta was meant to be very green and pretty.....

pick up the yellow pages in your home town. look up 'organic wholesalers' etc. pick anyone and go visit with a wad of cash and some hunger.

i could list the ones ive been to, or i can just say ive NEVER been refused...lol!

kk what did you think of dougs talk in sydney? when he stayed back for question and answer did you find he addressed the food availibility question?

another question people ask me is the importance ofbeing able to accurately count calories and succeeding as a raw vegan. personally in all my world travels and emails with long term raw vegans some of them over 20years 100% rv has came to the conclusion that they all have the ability to understand and count carb calories. but i thought it couldnt be that simple so i emailed the dougster and he confirmed that he too has NEVER met someone that just 'chances' it day by day calorie wise and stays raw vegan.

so many crew go back to cooked food and or animal products saying 'oh raw vegan is just too extreme'..but they just didnt eat enough carbs. even a good buddy of mine in all her journals you can clearly see HARDCORE undereating of carbs. the amounts of food she typed in,just dont add up calorically to the figures she gave. low fat she was, but eating enough carbs to maintain the health she wanted...NO WAY!. She didnt do 811 wholistically. she cut back the fat, but still ate combo abombo's as her daily menu planners indicate.

every day involved undereating calories,
eating combo abombos like dates and corn, mango and dulse, date and tomato. sultanas and coconut.
eating foods that people with digestive upsets shouldnt eat like seaweed, tomatoes, lemon juice, dried fruit.
eating too many different foods per day, per meal and expecting a lifelong chron's condition able to handle it.


then she did a lengthy juice fast and tried to work back in a job she labeled as 'toxic and harsh' constantly getting asked about her way of eating. She was a lean bean as it was, to put her system under further adrenal stress by lack of carb calories whilst still trying to maintain a lifestyle she did...no wonder she went back to cooked food and animal products...EVERYONE does..the body simply cannot function longterm on rations. something will break. the body has survival in mind.

the more people i talk with about raw, the more i see where people trip up on. what would have kept my friend fueled to continue?
sufficient MONO meals of fruit.
no dried fruit, tomatoes, condiments etc ie things that irritate sensitive digestive tracts.
MAXIMUM of 2 ingredients per meal. and only a fruit and tender green together ie pear and lettuce, banana and celery, not 2 fruits together.

so my friend actually didnt do 811 correctly and hence didnt end up getting the results she desired. she unknowlingly starved herself all the way back to cooked food and animal products. just like many do.
its not a dig, its just basic physiological facts that highlight the importance of knowing OBJECTIVELY how much fuel we are putting in the tank..we count the litres going into our cars fuel tank so why shouldnt we count the carb calories going into our personal fuel tank? otherwise youll be left on on the highway of life with low blood sugar eat'n roadhouse tucker! lol!

Hey Harley

Thanks for putting so much into this thread.

I am still hopelessly addicted to cooked food but I dream of being 100% RV and it's something my soul has been wanting all my life. I have not been able to let the cooked food go. My resolve is strong in the morning but by the time I get to the evening the addiction kicks in and my resolve melts away. To tell you the truth it's going to take a miracle for me to get off cooked food and that's not just being dramatic.

I think greens might be the key, with bananas being very important. Did I understand you correctly as saying avoid tomatoes?

Steve

How many minutes between each mono meal?
Is it 15 or 30 minutes?
Tomato is often described as a fruit so is it a fruit and also a vegetable?
A rockmelon is also a fruit and a vegetable?

DR maybe you should put your "foraging courses" for each city on-line at YouTube.

Is there any real chance that you could do this, it would be really good if you could.

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I had forgotten about that thread, it was a while ago now. If Flemington markets were open on a Saturday or Sunday I could go, but apparently they are only open early Friday morning. I could take a day off work and go but could not do that every week, boss would have a mini meltdown