when it comes to products that aid our active lifestyle always shop around and spend as much as you can afford. go to many bike shops and try and find an assistant that can fit you correctly to the bicycle. fit is everything!

it doesnt matter how light, cheap, exspensive, sexy...if it doesnt fit..it aint gonna be the true cycling experience we deserve.

we must use historic icons to aid us in our journey. wars are fought over personal intereptations of biblical texts. i dont follow anyone but instinct and raw sense. war spelt backwards is raw. if it aint raw its war, on the planet, animals, each other.

jesus stood for love, joy, compassion, respect, truth, simplicity...all these are tenants in the raw vegan lifestyle.

I always will write what I think Theresa...er...particularly when "talking" to/with harley....LOL!

We all learn something I guess...from everyones posts.

John

raw sensation said, at the commencement of this topic/thread :


this thread was created for harley to be himself. readers can choose to have a look, just as they can choose to stay away - they're even warned at the top. how much easier can it get?

it has also proven to be one of the most popular in both contributions and lurker "views." so why do we need to keep on dredging up the same old tired line of "why can't harley change his approach?"
i tend to just watch this thread now, for me it's the only place of interest. all you need is a sense of humour to really understand the passion. i want to be able to keep reading "clip over the head"-style rants from a raw-crazed maniac - one whom i have a great respect for. if he has to change, then i'll go looking elsewhere for his contributions. going by the figures, i am not alone in this opinion.

go and moderate the rest of the board, just leave this one alone.

 

fruiteus maximus...

Let's get the facts straight for starters shall we?

This board has only been moderated very "moderately" and only when harls stepped over a line and Harley himself couldn't access the moderate button (because it's on a timer) and asked for it to be done.

I then went and "moderated" his posts (and went to great pains to keep the initial meaning intact...not exactly a one minute job...would have been far easier to simply delete paragraphs))....the reason it was even moderated in the first place was because the person he refered to wasn't exactly over the moon about the whole thing ok?

The absolute last thing anyone who is a moderator here wants to do...is actually moderate any post.

Harley can say what he wants in here (to a point yanno...mentioning some people without their knowledge or permission and in fact criticising their approach tends to sail close to the wind...would you not agree?)...and as Harls himself has indicated you can ask whatever you want...that's a two-way street (surely?).

Why is it that Harls can say what he wants...but as soon as he gets questioned hard about what he says...or even disagreed with...others seem to feel the need to come to his defence.

He's vocal and strong enough to come to his own "defence"...and ffs he ain't being "attacked" anyway...

Harley himslef has stated many times and in many ways that he does not take offence at being questioned hard.

It may well be a "tired old line" of why can't harley change his approach...frankly I don't reckon it will ever happen...but that does not dilute my right of freedom of opinion to say what I think either.

Harls can take it or leave it as he sees fit.

But I will have my say friuteus maximus....I will express my opinion...along the lines that Harley does...and along the lines of you also having that right.

Agree or disagree....

No matter....

John

Well....ok....fruiteus maximus...

I take your point....

But here's the oil...

I also want to read harelys input....always...I always read his posts...

But this is/was the situation reached:

Harleys approach and delivery had offended enough people over time to make it a serious consideration to wonder what to do with his approach on this forum.

Think about that...

When you have a forum where one individuals approach offends so many...what do you do?

One "argument" is that the "offended" would have been offended anyway and were looking for an excuse (ie: would have left anyway)...now while that view may have some merit, when you reach the numbers of people who have directly left this forum because of Harls...you have to start to question the validity of "they were gonna leave anyway/looking for an excuse" view...

Last time all this blew up...it was suggested Harley was given his own space and to stay out of the "mainstream"...

It didn't happen that time around...

This time around I suggested to "management" that perhaps it was time to instigate a Harleys'-own place on the forum...where people who wished to be exposed to Harleys approach and style could come to view his opinions and that-that would remove any possible offence being taken by the (large volume) of people who had/have professed their reason for leaving here was because of Harley.

To me...that removed that "excuse" (valid or not)...

So here we are...Harley has his own space....if you don't want to be exposed to it...don't come here...kinda thing...

And certainly don't use it as an excuse to leave the forum...don't read it or post here...if you have a "problem"...with Harley....kinda thing...

Hopefully that approach will (harls having his own space) solve that issue once and for all....

It doesn't though....fruiteus maximus....give him a total free reign....no more than it gives anyone else a free reign to say anything...particularly about others personally....without some consequence...

John

Fruiteus Maximus...I had a think last night about your comments and I tend to agree with you (re: dredging up his style of delivery etc).

I won't mention it again.

If any moderation becomes necessary it will be done privately after contacting Harls privately. That should solve it and keep everyone happy.

John

all the leading cancer crew recomend that a decrease in body fat correlates with less chance of getting cancer.
i know lots of people with 40% body fat that fit into size 8 pants. they are fat skinny. we want to be 'fit skinny'. ie have muscle combined with low body fat.

fasting or juicing for weight loss never works long term. why? cos they just got back to doing what they were before the fast/ juice feast. i never recomend people go raw or fast for weight loss. i dont recomend people do exercise for weight loss. i ALWAYS recomend people make healthy life choices that serve long term goals...
most people in society could do with a fast. mainly cos supervised fasting allows time away from the burn out inducing stressful life people choose to put themselves in. but then again, they can go fast etc but if they go back to the maddness..they will be back to square 1..

what we read on forums is different to what we would see in real life. so i understand how people come to certain conclusions on anything they read on forums. thats fair enough.

o2, i dont know really how to answer that question. its a bit like all the people that ended up with heat stroke that hot summers day a few years back. that day i was riding past shouting at people to drink more water..some said thanks and reached for their bottle. some said 'get f'd'...
i seem to be a source of inspiration to people whom are hydrated. and a source of irritation to those that are dehydrated.
my closest friends are fellow water guzzlers.

here are some photos i took on the last few days of cycle commuting in a cooked society.


nutritional materialism at its finest...


free bread! bonus!


avocado roadside seedling from dinner a few years back..tomatoes growing too..ie ;drop your seeds anywhere they might grow..




if only they saw the possum, they would have saved money going to the colonel's..


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you have to be from radelaide to really appreciate this joke..

and some photos from that 24hr race i won recently..















and some persimmon action from the last few days.


this is what i call bike fuel..


tree ripened cicilian chocolate from a mates tree..holly mumma!


pea getting into some local percy action.


no food miles, dry irrigated, no waste...


this percy tree is to be soon bulldozed to make room for 'homettes'...


dont try this at home! moving a centipede outside.


save a bag! use your helmet!


riding home the other night some green caught my eye in the cracks of the road. we must seek inspiration that mother nature always puts out for those with the open eyes. this plant is growing despite the odds. despite the constant trampling from above, it still thrives. best we become that plant, enduring and strengthening from whatever adversity we are faced on the adventurous trail of life.