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« Reply #195 on: Thursday 29 May, 2008 »

hey Jimbo...how are ya darl?

back atchya......*hugs*
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« Reply #196 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

love what you said about broccoli. i hate it raw but thought of having it raw for more variety but i always found it too hard raw and wondered how anyone can eat it.

I am not over fond of it cooked. And I have trouble eating it raw in it's whole state.

But I love juicing it.

Plain broccoli juice is pretty 'full-on' but I normally mix it with beetroot and ginger.

It is meant to be really good for you. It is even classed as a super food. Apparently it is highly nutrient-rich vegetable. They say broccoli has multiple cancer-fighting properties.

Better to only juice organic broccoli because I believe the normal stuff is heavily sprayed.

Anyway my 2 cents worth.

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« Reply #197 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

ditch the juice and eat whole foods. youll get more carbs to fuel the day..


Wow. Juicing is the very best thing I have ever done for my health. So I certainly won’t be following this advice.


 

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« Reply #198 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

klr: what raw side of the coin do you classify yourself as, vegan or omnivore? do you find it neccesary to include powders like chlorella, spiralina, or other refined products, supplements etc?

bp: dreads dont fit a bike helmet that good, aint the most conducive to the athlete lifestyle but above all i dont do hair fashion...im into function..ALL my clothing outfits have a vegan message, i only own clothing i can run a marathon in. so no jeans, heavy jackets, silly poser shoes etc.

what could i improve on my diet? mmm, well getting access to cert organic everywhere would be great. rock'n up to a roadhouse in outback australia and tucking into some of their backyard grown or native bush fruits would be great, rather than having to send out via post a few kg of organic sultanas.

 the blender ive got is worth about 30$. i only use it a few months of the year as when im on the road i let my mouth do the chomp'n.

what do i do about winter? well where i live there is no real winter compared to places it goes minus zero. but i know people living in the snow and doing raw. its just a matter of knowing where to get bananas and oranges and celery etc. if im cold i just do some pushups, ride up a super steep climb or wrestle freelea. you wont see me lighting a fire or turning the heater on...nor turning on the air con cos its too hot..

i ask cooked fooders what they do when its 48celcius and its sunday bbq watching the football..but its never too hot for them for cooked food and its never too cold for me to eat raw food..its just a choice in the moment. just like  ditching things we find too stressful..i know of a lady that just walked out from her disrespecting family. walked away from the house loan and job. she accepted the families desires and directions and now they accept her. the government gave her an income and a place to stay. cos in a world of 'food comes from shops, and shelter must be bought' you still need some cashflow to continue living in the rat race. so yeah, another example of another way to live if it vibes with the individual.

was talking to a friend the other day, hubby just bought a 400k car. not to pick up the shopping in, but to race! she dislikes the lifestyle it takes in order to live that 'luxury' lifestyle. the hours working a job she really has no interest in. the countdown to retirement. she asked the same question how i can attend these 'health retreats' on my banana skin budget. well firstly, i dont have the outgoings that most have. i dont fly interstate to get a hair cut nor do i choose to fork out cash for junkfood addicted family members. i dont have stocks or retirement funds, i just hand to mouth it everyday. i have different priorities to most. my main priority is health. everything falls in line behind that one. when im healthy everything else is healthy, my relationships, fitness, travel, life experience etc. the healthiest lifestyle is also the 'cheapest' and greenest one. mother nature conspires positively to those out to protect and endorse her.

what would i like to improve on myself? i often want results more for society than it wants it itself. and as a result you sometimes cant find a hill steep enough, so you just do it again and again. your life becomes about proving a point. a point for the wellbeing of everyone. wellbeing for people i will never meet, for animals ive never heard of and future generations i will never see.

tattoos? bit like riding a bike or having a vasectomy..unatural for sure but helps get the message out there. sometimes we gotta use the bad for the good. or maybe im just being a hypocrit..

dont use shampoo, have used vegan soap twice this year. i find it funny that society would cringe at someone not using soap but how many people know that soap they buy contains animal fat! society is washing off the blood from meal time and using dead animals mixed with perfume to do so! go to a supermarket and the main ingredient in the top 10 best soap sellers is animal fat! dont believe me, ring up ANY commerical soap maker...

withdrawal sypmtoms? you bet! i know people so cooked they have to cook the air they breathe (smokers). i know people that rely on stimulants to go to bed and downers to get to bed. we live in a drug world. there was a war on drugs..we lost and they won! lol! so yeah, for sure people are going to often feel worse before they feel better. going healthy is like learning to ride a bike, your ego's gonna take a beating. and thats what hurts most people. its the fact that they relied on so much to get thru the day. that without the chems they could function. and its gonna take some time to get natural again. id also like to add that most of the worlds problems are caused by people that couldnt spend an entire day in a dark room by themselves.

society says its macho to abuse yourself with drugs. i can tell the next person i meet that i went out on a 'bender with the boys' last night and im feeling real seedy. they will most likely greet me with a nod and a smile. but if i share some natural hygeine advice with em..thats extreme! you then become the brunt of their jokes...but hey, whatever it takes to make someone laugh eh?

im not allowed to post photos here of the animal industry. and im totally cool with that, cos its sick stuff. but when i post photos of people laughing at pluck'n fruit or greens, people pm me and ask if they can share it with others. but if we see a picture of blood and guts and someone smiling we automatically think 'psycho'...
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« Reply #199 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

KittyK - I've gotta say that I agree with you!!!! :-)

This is my 7th day of juice feasting and I simply cannot believe the physical changes in me already. It is wickedly exciting!!!! :-) And this is after 5 months of 95% raw when I barely felt better than cooked vegetarian. My body is doing a spectacular job of cleaning itself out and I do have lots of energy now. My skin, face and figure is quite dramatically transformed already so I've really looking forward to seeing 92 days worth of results! 
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« Reply #200 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

Harls...you're such a dik-head at times it's almost impossible not to love you....and love you I do...the world needs at least one of you...ones enough though...I'd rather miss a meal than a Harley post.

Like a mate of mine...he's a real character...and he has some seriously weird ways of looking at things...but as another mate of mine said recently..."he's so unique you just have to stay tuned to the channel...."

You're a unique character Harley....keep it up.

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« Reply #201 on: Friday 30 May, 2008 »

OHMIGODJOHN!!!!! Don't encourage him! His head's big enough as it is. That's the real reason he doesn't have dreads ;-) ha ha ha

Harls - I'm only joking. So much of what comes out of your mouth is pure magic and witht those parts I agree 100%.  I have learnt to tune out the other stuff so let's not talk about that .... ha ha ha. I hope you're well Harley!!!     
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« Reply #202 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

thanks for answering all my questions Harley....I got the impression it was a free for all, so I went to town...lol. Plus I just love asking about what makes people tick in general...

so, now I'm wondering some other things, lol. Like do You think you have a big head (figuratively) like people suggest?

And you mentioned somewhere that you think the purpose in people's lives, aside from biologically, is something like make a statement, change the world in some bettering type of way, make your mark. But what if everyone was trying to do that? Wouldn't 6 billion people trying to be leaders, not work?

Do you think everyone should live where the fruit grows.....Doug ever so gently mentioned that in his book, but for me to leave my country, I need a marketable education or I'm simply not allowed to go anywhere....permanently that is. And if I need that, well then....so the wheel turns right? I have thought of trying a greenhouse type of thing, not sure how that'd work in the winter though, plus than would need land...which I have, but there again, not off the grid.

Some other things I'm wondering...
what about the unemployment, in Canada you can only get that for less than a year, and then it's welfare which is a pittance, like 6k a year, and you have to do a documented 35 hr a week job search just to get it. Working people tend to resent them too since it's from their tax dollars. I'm not saying I personally do or don't, but doesn't unemployment run out eventually? Like won't you eventually have to get a job-job? And even if not, you must admit, that even in order for you to get your supplemental money, that other people have to have job-jobs in order for you to do so. So what do you think are jobs that are in keeping with your personal vision, or philosophy of a perfect world? I hope that makes sense...

What are you going to do when your old and not as athletic, won't you struggle with not binging all the time?

Do you think it's more important to be raw all the time, or low fat all the time?

And lastly...why aren't you and freelea an item? lol...guess you don't have to answer that one, but I had to ask  rolleyes

and thanks for the mental picture of the soap thing, that's just great......now I will have to switch, and further will end up telling people That analogy when they ask, and reap the reprecussions....oi.

oh and you said eh! I thought that was strictly Canadian, guess not  laugh
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« Reply #203 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

Lol LoveSpirit...I tend to "knock" Harley a fair bit...and sometimes ya just gotta "balance-the-books" yanno....lol

banannapeel...I see a degree of hypocrisy in some things Harls says...one of which you alluded to...

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« Reply #204 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

DR.. I make it a point not to label myself actually, I eat what I like! I'm just really lucky because I absolutely adore healthy, clean, uprocessed food... Never ever been one to eat anything that came out of a coloured box or bag!

If the worst thing I consume is chlorella, spirulina and maca then yes I eat terrible refined food... Oh no! Fact of the matter is I really eat it because I love the taste not for the nutrition it gives me, that's just a bonus.
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« Reply #205 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

If six billion want to better the world we could be in  a better place, we can all be leaders yes there is no contradiction in that,
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« Reply #206 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

Patricia, you pointed out the one thing about which I wanted to comment!  I researched certain terminologies for a non-profit org. for which I interned, and "leadership" was one of them.  The best definition of a leader (that I can only paraphrase right now) was someone who took everyone's views into account and worked collectively to achieve a goal.  Therefore, there was complete parity in everyone's role.
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« Reply #207 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

Thankyou fo claryfying that point
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« Reply #208 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

Back to the broccoli...I actually love raw broccoli...I pluck little florets straight from the plant and they're delish. Not too fond of the bought stuff though so must be a freshness issue.
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« Reply #209 on: Saturday 31 May, 2008 »

Hey guys, what's doing?
I haven't read this entire thread, just the last two pages, and I wanted to contribute my own view..

I have always thought, since meeting Harley, that what he does works because he has a really strong belief that it works. Strong to the point that he adamantly believes that it's the best damn thing for everybody.

I did 811 for half a year, and always had problems. I now put that down to my lack of faith in it. Actually, I pretty much always had problems with any raw plan I tried (though you wouldn't of known it, I always acted like everything worked for me, hehe).

About 6 months after I began raw eating, I also began to try to look for the perfect diet. I had had good results, and this had seemingly come about just by changing what I ate, but now I wanted even better results. I wanted to be super-human, I wanted to be perfect and I decided I'd do that primarily through diet. Funnily enough, my problems didn't start until I started to focus on being perfect and trying to improve my diet. I had actually gone straight from eating cooked vegetarian fare to strict fruitarianism without much effort and without any knowledge of raw food. At the time, I didn't make the distinction between raw and cooked food; I just knew I was eating only fruit and nuts because it seemed like a fun idea and was simple to do.

After that, and up until I stopped trying to eat only raw, I never felt like I found that way to perfection. I was constantly researching all kinds of food-related things and starting a new eating plan seemingly every day, but making sure it still fit in with the overall philosophy I had adopted at the time (811, high fat, whatever). This was to improve on whatever I was doing.

Now I figure, how could I ever succeed at something if I never had faith in it? A person can't have much faith in something if they're constantly trying to find something else that's better just a day after beginning.

I believe anything can work if you are convinced it will. I was never fully convinced that what I was doing was ok.
From what I can see, Harley has that conviction. It can be difficult for people to do radically different things and make them work, especially when it involves something that is so tied up in culture and beliefs about basic mortality as eating. I can see a variety of ways that Harley has convinced himself that his way is the best and right way. I really think that it's conviction that makes the difference.
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