I really think we are talking about going in the same direction .


why do you say Dr Ann wasnt vegan ? in her later books she did have reciepts with non vegan products but she did this to make her reciepts more appealing and it was my understand that she was talked into this.

she didnt eat them herself and her diet was very simple , I am not sure if she has honey but probally not.

and if you say some one is not vegan because they eat maybe seaweed or honey is a bit nit picky to me but probally strckly speaking there not. it does really matter to me .

And I think a lot of folks that are raw vegan are making changes in there diet as they progress so what they might have it there book might be not what they are currently doing .

so i think you have to discovery what is it  you truly need yourself and to do that it is helpful to get help from otherin the beging.

i think what Vic and Dr G are stressing is low fat which is what is needed.

Simon.

simon: i aint gonna go into detail on this forum. but i aint talk'n honey and seaweed. just like that adjonus vonderplanitz and tom billings. you read their stuff and nowhere does it say 'im 100% raw'. we just assume cos the topic is rawfood..

bp: when our body says stop, its time to stop. just like when i stretch my hamstring to its comfortable point, i dont go further.

we have to know when and what to push, and when and what to back off from. ie: the only things we truly know are those which we personally experience, the rest is programming.

my biggest problem is the stash of monthongs i have in my room. there is more durian fat than durianrider can ride out. so im busy finding crew to share the spiky football sized burdens..

oh and i just did the math of a meal at macca's consisting of a burger, large fries and their largest triple choc thickshake. just over 2300cals. not kj but cals. when i ate this stuff 10 years ago, nobody blinked an eyelid. but if i tried to eat 2300cals from watermelon or kiwifruit or oranges...people would quesiton my sanity..oh hang on, they already do..lol!

forget jesus, our god is ronald, the clown.
so dont be suprised if a drone tries to shoot you down.
they dont know better
cos they absorb channel 10 to the letter..
just do your homework and let your health do the talk'n.
and on your purpose filled life journey, you just keep a walk'n..

RGG....that about sums up what I've been trying to say for 18 months in dozens of ways.

Bingo-bullseye.

So much to offer...so bad at offering it (to the majority).

You just simply have to sit back with H and wonder....is the cart before the horse or vise-versa....anyway...said more than intended.

John

thankyou crew!

we can see it as slam'n or holding a friend to a higher integrity...
just like ive had people defend me but i didnt want defending. cos only i can feel slammed. but i see it as being held to my potential. we can feel the victim of a bully or see it as a pully, pull'n us to better personal acheivments.

ive got a mate that just missed out on the olympics cos of a drink driving charge. a lot of crew point at him and then say to me,' how come they can ride so good? on food you diss?'. i know for fact that if my mate was eating and living my lifestyle with his pure talent he would be going for gold in bejing instead of watching it on the couch...

so we can be great on a sub par lifestyle for sure,BUT NEVER OUR GREATEST! there is a reason that the only food in nature that has the word passion attached to it is a raw plant food...passion fruit and passion leaf...but i just cant imagine passionlobster, passionclam, passionpig, passionegg, passioncheese, passionrice, passion filled steamed veg or a passionhotdog...mc passion? nah, it aint vib'n with me..

i was talking to someone recently about the cancer industry. and how its based on fear. and medical jargon talk.
we live in a society where people see natures ways as extreme but they are happy to drive their family, friend member etc to the clinic and go and get chemo. do they know that chemo is called mustargen? what is mustargen? its mustard gas left over from ww2. that aint some conspiracy theory hippy talk. its wikpedia fact..lol!

i dont get down about the direction society is head'n. i just focus on the direction im head'n. otherwise its too easy to be burning out instead of burning brighter...

oh and bp, i forgot to mention about the bike..invest in something that is safe and fits you. that way we spend more time fighting the elements and terrain rather than fighting the bike...

Banannapeel - Perhaps try a few different greens and see which ones taste the best for you. When I first went raw I ate lots of silverbeet and it tasted wonderful, though many other people find it too bitter. Maybe you just haven't found the ones you like?

You could also just eat a small amount each time but try to do it a few times throughout the day. Just a thought.

people can tell when im training and or racing hard. my passion in my posts goes up. apathy goes out the window and im up for indepth debates.

going inward is vital, not talking is great. id just rather do it by myself in nature than around crew eating animals, cooked food and wearing perfume and me not being able to say anything cos ive dropped 500$ on a course i can tell people ive done...lol! if them vipassana crew were up with it, they wouldnt be cooked food addicts. my mate just came back from one. they get up at 3am to do 4-5hours of food prep. i reckon my time would be better utilised.

but thanks for the idea luke. maybe i should chill out and kill an animal for lunch. or pay someone else to do it... maybe i should chill out with some blood running down my chin? eh? come on champ, increase your fruit calories so you aint guzz'ln raw rabbits..

freedom comes for the heart i agree. hence why i believe no animal must suffer for my meal. no animal must slave for me to eat. thats my idea of freedom from a wholistic standpoint. i just helped a scorpion off the road on the way to this internet joint. i see beauty in critters that get squashed, eaten or monsanto'd by most.

why am i pointing the finger? cos crew are questioning the results they are getting. im gonna highlight the darkness. some crew have more time than others to 'find what works for them' some crew just got diagnosed with a month to live. those crew need to hear it from someone that stands for something real,sustainable, obtainable and peaceful. they need to hear from someone that aint afraid to put it on the line. someone that aint afraid to speak what they mean on national tv etc.

right now im training for a solo 600km ride and a sub 3hr marathon.. you can bet durianrider is hyped! when we are holding ourselves to a high standard, we hold others to same.

when im train'n hard, im post'n hard! im say'n it, how it is! no diluted, canned mango in syrup replys...these wild mangoes are hurtling to the point!

its this sort of passion that allows me to win state champ 24hr solo xc races with no sleep and no drugs. to run marathons, to ride 1500km a week etc. its the ability to turn ourselves 'on' and get the job done.

the experts agree  that 3% of cals from protein is suffcient for humans.
the studies show that under 10% of cals in a year from fat is best. you could eat 80% of your cals from  fat in one day and still be under 10% for the year.

my bro came and stayed with me a few months back. he tried to offer me drugs and booze. he said 'harls you need to unwind'...im like 'me unwind? im not the drug addict no more. my idea of unwinding is gett'n to bed at 7 and getting up at 7. its eating in a way that doesnt introduce adrenaline into my body or force my body to go into ketosis to produce sugar cos i aint eating enough..

those comments went straight over my bros head. but after a few days he said' you seem to be doing alright on this diet and lifestyle..but im still a bit concerned'. i said bro 'i have the state champs 24 on the weekend. i know im gonna win it. nobody in this state can touch me in a 24. its my race. i have to go to the nationals if i want competition.and then in a population of 24million only a handful of drugged up guys can give me a run for my money...,' im the fittest and healthiest member of my family at 30 ever! but its like talking to drunk crew at a 'party'. not many crew are gonna be able to vibe with what your saying.

its hard to talk to our family when they are in cooked la la land. when i get drunk crew or junkees coming up to me asking for money etc, i just give em a serve of raw info. its like i sprayed repellent in their faces. they instantly disperse. but i just wanted to help.. ie the false self is so strong in these people that they can not bear to here a bit of truthful insight.

we dont eat donuts or do smack to remember we do it to forget. forget that we are not living the lives we want. we eat numbing foods so we cant feel the pain of a wasted moment. people dont eat domino's cos it makes them feel better, they eat it cos it makes em unconscious. people eat animal products cos it keeps their heart turned off to the horrors of the world, but how can we stop the horrors if our lunch is a slab of horror?

being a raw vegan forces us to detach from our past. our story of 'why i cant or why im like this or why this always happens to me...' it disolves it. and forces us to move forward and live a life of purpose. but first we have to believe and know we are worth living our life purpose. not many people think they are worthy...they think they need to eat carcasses, canned food, gruel and slop. they put the corporations marketing departments dreams and goals before their own. they say' oh when i have some time i will read that book or get some more sleep..' but for most that time never comes...cos they dont MAKE TIME FOR IT...they just rely on public holidays to catch up some adrenal rest but most just drink more booze.. durianrider says we should have a public holiday month where people must rest 20 hours a day for the whole month..

we live in a society where 'happy hour' means a discount on some poison to kill your pain..lol!
we dont do anyone a service to hang with em cos we feel sorry for them. otherwise the person continues the attention seeking behaviour and our relationship with them reinforces the downward spiral.

we have enough diluted crew in the health movement today. my recomendation for people wanting a dilution solution to their lifestyle pollution, is go listen to them tell you what you want to hear.
if your prepared to kick some cooked ass! then load up the fruit box and get ready for raw!. as we battle ignorance and apathy with undeniable examples of vitality..


come and have some lunch mate! dont be so raw all the time,,yeah come on durianrider..chill out and crack a pepsi..
the cooked food world spends per year 33billion$ US on food advertisments..this add is in EVERY village in thailand..where its cheaper to buy pepsi or coke than a bottle of fresh pressed local cane juice...
some crew say we got time for baby steps..i reckon we gotta start doing some profound jumps so asia, india etc aint having to run a marathon in 10 years to save the planet..

never before have humans lived in such urgency to do something about our environment. six million kids dying per year from starvation. 9 million kids in america overweight or obese...and durianrider is extreme. fruits and veg and raw low fat is extreme..earning your meal is extreme..human powered transport is extreme. drug free athletics and social life is extreme. handing out kfc cruelty leaflets to thai school kids is extreme..