Just got text that I might need to come and have a look here.

Bottom line, yes this is Harley's thread. Yes he can be a little harsher here than he can in the rest of the forum. But he still needs to stick to guidelines. And that includes having respect for others, just like the rest of us. We know that in person he is different yet still passionate to his online persona.

This thread was created so people could ask Harley. He opened himself up to questions very early in the peace by saying 'ask me anything' and people have. They've asked about his eating, cycling, Thai time and attitude, demeanor etc etc.

He is a big boy and perfectly capable of answering questions himself. I think he enjoys it but don't know for sure as we are not close. Personally I don't get offended by Harley but then I don't like his approach and therefore I don't really take what he says on board.

Can I suggest that we all stand back, take a breather and resume asking Harley questions when he returns?

After all, the thread is called Ask Harley, not let's argue about Harley.

xoxoxo

Actually it's Harley Says....  Simple Simon Says...... God Said...... 

Just a suggestion to people who are offended by this thread & Harleys style.....
Maybe fight the urge to click on this thread?  Obviously it's challenging for some as its had something like 15000 views!!  Check out the love thread instead its really sweet :-))

was in bangkok yesterday doing some kfc and macca's activiism. supported some local thai kfc workers that were outside protesting about no payed lunch break. i handed out kfc cruelty flyers and gave kfc some loud verbal advice..

ran home in the ran last night. red hot chilli peppers crank'n the tunes...was a run to remember forever. got back and ate a durian standing in the rain..

melb, you sound like the skin expert. id like to see a recent photo of you to show us your stuff. just as i boast about my athletic prowess etc and follow it with photos.. show us how its done. im always open to learning more from crew getting the results i desire.

luke, you forgot our talks together up in port...

john, your idea of a mono meal is carbon MONOxide.  i accept that.

rp sees my softer side. i dont think its wise that people view my other posts on other forums. cos thats where i really turn up the volume...lol!

i dont read other threads just as i dont listen to conversations i aint gonna contribute too. i aint got time for in- action. im only interested in dialogue if i can be part of the collective efforts. call it ego or call it a compulsive desire to share  helpful info with folk..

as for people with mental health, eating issues, etc...ive helped many and continue to do so. why? cos people can afford me. as im free. im informal. i have the time, skills and experience dealing with people on the edge. heck ALL of the crew i mentor, feel better cos they KNOW im the craziest one..lol!

like jim said, if crew cant hack some words typed in cyberspace by an absolute stranger with a 'fruity cyclist' name, then there is no way they are gonna succeed on raw in this cooked world. people using other people as excuses to bail anything were always looking for a way out. we just held the door open for em so they didnt rip it off the hinges..

ok anyone got any questions? 

This was the case for me. Finding raw was my last ditch effort to avoid chemo and losing my uterus and eventually a transplant for my very damaged liver.

I had finally (fought it kicking and screaming!) come to the conclusion that there HAD to be another way (alternate to the medical system) and RP was my first port of call regarding raw. I didn't have any idea that there were fruitarians, RV or indeed 811rv (sheltered life?) or that these ways of eating were sustainable for more than a couple of months.

I was far from the typical KFC munching, milk drinking, SAD that DR describes but I certainly wasn't healthy doing it the cooked vegetarian/vegan way. So I began to explore the other options.

RP was my first information on the subject, my first recipes and my first place to make contact with other people that live the raw lifestyle. I don't know ANY rv's that I haven't met through here.

The ones on here that made an impact for me were the compassionate, gentle and loving people who were informative, supportive and willing to answer the simplest questions that they had answered many times before. People like May.

I am naturally attracted to people who are straight up, a little arrogant and sure of their opinions. But in this case I needed something else and thankfully there were those here that were able to provide that for me.

I respect DR's opinions and I admire his ability to live his lifestyle to the degree that he does. BUT he is only a small cog in the wheel of rv and on RP. There are many other's who are making an impact, leading by example and helping new people through their transistions to raw as well.

DR has his place and his style and there will be those that are naturally drawn to that. There will also be those who are hurt and repelled by it. For those people I recommend that more of the long-term rv's post. Let your voice be heard as well. Provide a different perspective and give people a choice.

With one option, we only have one choice. With many options, we have a life journey.



And yes DR I do have a question...

Many years ago I introduced a piece of metal to my knee (it went through and out the other side) which did quite a bit of damage. I have been running off and on over the last year but I get to a point and it is just too painful.

I am drinking 3ltres water daily (normally about 2.5 but I upped it a few weeks ago), eating mono meals of fruit or vegetables and walking, riding and swimming weekly (walking every day because I don't use a car.)

My question is, what else can I do to strengthen the knee? Or more accurately the muscles around it?

I have been doing squats and lunges but find them painful before long (can only do 50 lunges before it hurts too much to go any further) and I practice daily yoga or pilates.

Any suggestions?

I agree that doing nothing is not the answer.

Thanks for the advice about slowing down the movement. I hadn't thought of that but I can immediately see the value.

Recovery time is also the other thing I need to address. I think I rush it, it gets too painful and then I stop. I need to do them more frequently but with a greater gap between.

Thanks Jim.

I was thinking while I was browsing this latest thread how it may be inevitable for society to always question its leaders, for we want to know the mind behind the statements.  I like the RP board because people seem to cover every attribute of life, and so we therefore start to question the person who contributes a lot to see how it more fully connects to our understanding.  Also, I find that some people on this board genuinely want to know others as friends.  Cold internet posts are a mental sickness in my opinion.  

Accordingly with my prior sentence, when someone doesn't just contribute often but also strongly preaches, people will definitely question the "Messiahs" to therefore put more belief in them, where it could even get to the point of becoming mindless disciples as it is now in main religions (I've been aware of this concerning David Wolfe and could sense the vibe about Harley but chose to deflect it).  But, each point is valid in what we are saying.  It's just to create a more fair approach instead of say, "like it or leave it," and you know, Jim, as well as maybe everyone here how hard it is to really face our inner struggles toward change, and this lifestyle for one is a huge change!  

I came again to this board weak for support, and even though I felt I knew Harley extremely well, his monitoring of my progress in his eyes was too much to handle, for, would I really go back to cooked food if I am not exactly like him?  Maybe I would if someone who brainwashed me into thinking he had the truth would tell me I would!  I was not always strong mentally, but regardless of that, I would have succeeded eventually on raw.  I just didn't want anything else to get in my way at that time that I CHOSE to put out a vibe for real support and truth, not lies in that I would be going back to cooked and be sub-par if I didn't do it only one way.  

On another side, I of course see a lot of his statements as tongue-in-cheek, and I admire his off the wall passion to picket like a PETA/animal liberation member.  I did not admire his confrontation to others by yelling when they were unassuming in their actions; i.e., cooking a barbeque to raise money for a disease.  I would have rather said it more sanely to them, but if he in his own mind determined that the shock value was better because we both knew they wouldn't be really receptive anyway, then so be it.  Anyway, I will just reiterate that I think this thread has occurred naturally, actually, and it is good to see so many sides of things.  Compassion and love is key, as John says, to see the worth of what everyone is saying.  

Great advice also about the knee, Jim, for that will be a good challenge for me.

That's a good, direct question John.  Harley, I advise that you take some thoughtfulness to answer that one.