Lol the older generation...yeah blame us.

Sorry just chuckling here....when I was about 40 I had a G/F about 28....one of those brief (few month long) intermingling of the intellect type relationships...;-)

Had this very conversation with her about it all being "the older" generations "fault"....the same generation that did (well x-y-z to help humanity, 'nother subject).

This isn't a generational issue...it's vastly more involved than that.

Could be an interesting topic tora chan....if there's any interest shown here on it.

PARTICULARLY the way governments typically respond to things like this...

John

None of this has anything actually to do with alcohol...(treat the symptom not the cause?)....nor does it have anything at all to do with other drugs..legal or not.

Look at the history of alcohol as an example...and /or ciggies...but alcohol is a classic...prohibition has been well and truly tested.

If something like alcohol is legal the good guys (well that's a contradiction in terms...the government) make money from it. If it's illegal...the "bad guys" make money from it. The only difference there is perception. At the least the "bad guys" don't pretend...there is an honesty in the lack of hypocrisy.

How do Governments deal with their hypocrisy? By ignoring it and creating (and funding)...well....you get the drift...nothing new down that path.

We are each responsible for our own actions and decisions regardless of the circumstances (when a choice is actually involved) and the consequences of those actions. Our "current" individual degree of perception (whether high or low or non-existant) is completely irrelevant to the degree of culpability or repercussion from our actions.

This basic truth is being eroded....and being replaced by a "new" (hahhahaha yeah right...new) attitude of almost arrogant expectation of "individual rights" (while contributing nothing). It is an illusion. It is not reality.

As always...not everyone falls for the puppet act....

But Most Do ....as always....

This issue goes wayyyy deeper than it appears to on the surface.....and there's a lotta people on this forum who do not fall for that puppet act.

John

I think you could be right.

I went up to the local football oval on Sunday, as I walk laps around it.

I got there just at the end of a football match.

There were loads of drunken adults there, mainly fathers staggering around wearing footy shirts, with huge beer bellies and clutching cans of VB.

However, it was a “family” event, so there were also a lot of teenagers there. These teenagers were being given drinks by the adults, then staggering around the streets and vomiting everywhere.

Not so sure Rudd's plan will work. If you can’t afford the new price hike of pre-mixes, just buy cask wine or sherry flagon (2 litres of cheap grog for less than $10) instead.

I am a bit peed off, my favourite wine has gone up in price quite dramatically recently, but it won’t stop me buying it.

I dont think this prise will do anything. Although I am happy about it because I like the idea of that portion of the population paying higher taxes when its those people that make our hospitals so over crowed due to there addictions.

Sach!