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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 05 July, 2008 »

I remembered also that I use to have very sensitive teeth eating cooked food as salt or sugar/sweetened food caused a jabbing pain. Fruit is fine though.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 July, 2008 »

The way I understand it, when the mouth is filled with food that is acidic (not "acid forming in the body" but actually acidic, per se), the body tries to bring the Ph back to normal by releasing minerals from the teeth. If this is the mechanism by which a lot of frugarians get into trouble with their teeth (and there definitely are plenty who will tell you they did), then rinsing with water afterwards is a complete solution (no pun intended.. "solution" lol). That would apply regardless of what you eat.

According to an interview I remember on Raw Vegan Radio, having your amalgams out is not as straight forward an exercise as it might seem. Not for the light hearted, especially if you have a mouthful. They also said that plastic fillings and porcelain are not much better. In fact, some may be even worse, because they're based on aluminium. Pull out your lead and replace it with aluminium? Max Gerson advised against removing amalgam... he says pulling the whole tooth is the way to go (and even then, you have to be careful).. if you end up with a mouth full of gums, then so be it.. just have to live on green smoothies.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 July, 2008 »

Weston Prices remedy to people that had cavities was small amounts of Cod Liver Oil and Raw Butter, This he created Activator X, that healed people of severe bone deformities such as Arthritis and improved their teeth. My own experience, with only Raw Butter and Raw Cream has cured me of sensitive teeth, naturally whitened them, and with one tooth that was on its way out, healed it completely. His book for those that are interested is called NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL DEGENERATION. I believe Harley is on the right track with his 80 10 10 approach. But for a faster option with those of you who are concerned for their teeth, especially those with Pain and want to reverse damage done, this may be for you.
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 06 July, 2008 »



a natural toothpaste or tooth oil with mint

Can you give me an example of a natural toothpaste? Are you talking about those herbal SLS free ones you see in health food shops or are you talking about a home-made one?

Also, what is tooth oil - I have never heard of it.

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To answer the original question - my teeth get worse when I eat (or drink the juice of) apples and oranges. My dentist actually told me to limit my apple intake because my teeth had noticeably got worse. So after consuming apples I now just swish my mouth with water to remove any traces. It seems to work well. My teeth also feel better when I use an electric toothbrush. Apples seem to be the main culprit because my teeth feel ok when I consume greens.

I have read of a few cases where a new age mother gives their child a bottle of fresh raw apple or orange juice to suck on and their child’s teeth literally rot away. So as long as you don’t spend hours sucking from a baby bottle laugh and you rinse after eating, you should be fine.

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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 26 July, 2008 »

I am having some problems with my teeth on this diet i have to admit - I'm raw vegan close to 100% raw most days with the odd bit of cooked vegan fare.  I eat loads of greens and lots of green smoothies and green soups and am low fat (close to 80/10/10).  Is anyone else experiencing these problems?

Yes I feel well, but I'd like to keep my teeth for a while yet.

Has anyone done any research on why a lot of raw vegans get these problems while indigeneous societies who had a fair bit of animal offal and dairy never brushed their teeth and did not have any cavities (eg Australian aborigines before white man)

What are others doing that is working for them/ reversing their teeth problems?
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 26 July, 2008 »

My teeth ar ein pain only when i eat nuts. Otheriwse im doing well on high fruits and greens except for a little yellowing off the teeth. Brushing the teeth with seasalt helps to strengthen them and balance sugar decay. Mix seasalt with xylitol which is good for gums and teeth aswell into silica gel or coconut oil and brush.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 26 July, 2008 »

you can get

 Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
Author: Weston A. Price

as a free e book

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http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 27 July, 2008 »

I know a few people who would appreciate this ebook. Thanks Simon.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday 28 July, 2008 »

My teeth have gone downhill over the last 2 years (I discovered the benefits of raw foods about 2 years ago) but I put it down to the amounts of dried fruit and honey I use.

I have had a tooth extracted last year and really need to get along to the dentist again to check out some other sensitivities going on at the moment.

For my situation, the solution seems fairly simple - cut down the dried fruit and honey (and maybe nuts?), increase the greens...but for some annoying reason (habitual conditioning, emotional eating, etc.) it is HARD!!!  Must become more focussed on this before I have no choice but to have green smoothies all day due to lack of teeth to chew!

I enquired about removing amalam fillings when I visited my holistic dentist a few years ago.  He told me the same as Doug Graham suggests.

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 July, 2008 »

i was having some teeth problems and was truly perpexed at the situation! I've started brushing every morning, and flossing every night. I've also been chewing on grass and have been having wheatgrass that's been watered with 10% sea water for extra minerals and I'm pleased to say that the sensitivities are going. Woo hoo! I know I'm not in the clear yet but I'll get there.

I have complete faith that my body will take the nutrients from what I feed it to heal on every level.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 29 July, 2008 »

Ive had a few probs with my teeth since raw, mostly its just been pain where my wisdom teeth were, but the odd time thats happened a simple tea tree oil mouthwash has fixed it (just a drop in a mouthfull of water). The pain seems to come back if i eat alot of nuts, particularly peanuts (they were blanched, so maybe why).

At first when i was raw and i tried not using toothpaste and just water i got tooth problems, so i thought i must need the toothpaste, but when ive again tried later ive found water is more than enough. I occasionally use a home made toothpaste when they feel a bit yuck but generally it isnt needed. I dont tend to get furry teeth anymore whether i brush or not (well sometimes i do, but no often, and is probs been when have eaten alot of dried fruits or had coffee).

I can actually skip brushing occasionally at night without any problems now (although i tend not to), before if i missed it by the morning my mouth would be awful!

My teeth are much whiter than they used to be and to me look very healthy, at one point they were very discoloured and not so pretty. They look like they did when i was younger now, had great teeth as a child, a few spots of mild discolouration but is probs only noticeable to me.

The raw diet has been fantastic for mouth health, even a decaf coffee doesnt seem to hinder things, however a traditional coffee out tends to leave my mouth pretty yuck. The only time i find problems is with nuts, but usually a drink of water and a run over with my fingers around my gums (yeah im that gross, lol) fixes it.

I get no tooth pain anymore, i did initially but now nothing. Go raw!!!
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 29 July, 2008 »

this would obviously vary for diff people, but i'll make a note that both my brother and i have pretty well ruined our teeth after years of munching on salads with heaps of lemon juice in em. then it was set off by a blueberry eating competition... had really sensitive teeth and burning gums after that so couldn't eat anything sweet/acidic or hard for the next 4-5 days...
rather than the sugar, it was definitely the acid that etched the enamel of our teeth. we also both got receding gums soon after that.
its ok now cause we're eatin heaps more greens and raw milk & eggs anyway, but all it takes is a pink lady apple, some berries or citrus and the sensitivity comes right back and takes 1-2 days to recover.
we've only heard of a few others that have similar problems, and i think it takes a fair bit of abuse to do it... the burning started at around 600 blueberries, and we had to call it even at 1000 each... (and didn't pay a cent for em laugh)
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 03 August, 2008 »

My teeth have gone downhill over the last 2 years (I discovered the benefits of raw foods about 2 years ago) but I put it down to the amounts of dried fruit and honey I use.

I have had a tooth extracted last year and really need to get along to the dentist again to check out some other sensitivities going on at the moment.

For my situation, the solution seems fairly simple - cut down the dried fruit and honey (and maybe nuts?), increase

Jacki

From what I can understand speaking to Bee Keepers Honey is not Raw unless you buy it in Honey Comb form. Reason being that it crystallises not long after it is harvested, so it has to be heat treated to allow it to run from the container, not at an extremely high heat, but high enough to damage it. So this may explain why having honey may cause teeth damage.
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