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« on: Monday 04 August, 2008 »

changed your perceptions or made the foundation basis of your beliefs stronger?

This could be from Christianity, spirituality, atheism etc....
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 August, 2008 »

Don't think this is strictly raw, but very important in how you eat, and what you eat.

I practis[ed] Diannic Paganism for a long time which is pantheistic in its outlook. I have practiced thinking about my food sources and thanking them for allowing me to accept their gift of nourishment. I have a veggie friend who apologizes to meat when she cooks it for her husband.

It might sound whacky, but it certainly makes me think about how we respect our food sources. This includes the fruit and veg that are genetically tampered with and force fed chemicals. Of course the soil too, as part of Mother Earth.

Cheers and BB!

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 September, 2008 »

Im only 20 so ive had no time to properly study anything.
I grew up with Christian morals, then the whole family became athiest, then i found NLP (an attitude and methodology which leaves behind a trail of techniques) which opened my mind to being curious and being playful, then i found reiki, learned abit tibetan buddhism, had a few enlightening experiences along the way(i really saw 'the light', just by pondering the idea of 'attachment', and have learnt only recently how to get back there to that state but on different endocrine levels), then i looked into huna, then learned abit more about daoism as i came across someone who was very down to earth, and then i learnt abit about essenes and how Jesus was a vegetarian, and now i go by the huna saying that 'Not all wisdom is in your school'. So i suppose im 'gnostic', i like to experience things before i make the connection, in daoism this is the gung fu way where you earn your learnings rather than learn stuff and then earn the understandings and neurological connections, in tibetan buddhism this is 'avoiding delusion'.

What ive been understanding latley thanks to Wan Qi at www.meditation-mantra.org (hes done over 300 youtube videos or something) (and alot of raw choc) is how to think like an alchemist, and this has given me an appreciation for alot of beleif systems, and being able to think metaphorically.. He ties together alot of different traditions and shows the similarities, which is the path to the ancient way.
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 September, 2008 »

Phill! *pounce and hug*. Great to see you! It sounds like you are on a huge spiritual learning curve there! xoxox
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 September, 2008 »

Wow i almost totally forgot about this thread.

Thankyou for the replies really enjoyed reading them. Sorry in a hurry, will get back to this thread soon.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 September, 2008 »

practicing belief system ... i try NONE...
somewhere along the Line i read once : Belief System are man-made...
Truth already Is... and GOD doesn not need-have Religions...
so Life Itself as a Teacher if we learn to Listen...

perhaps a belief system that in itself takes account that there is not such a thing like a 'belief system' to live by...

yes Raw has changed and made the foundation basis stronger...

Interesting , that the Foundation of Life is related to Purity... so in this case Raw Foods with its Lightness certainly brings you to a Purer Zone... yes

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 September, 2008 »

Not sure whether I can it a belief. Just a random collection of convictions, such as:

Have your eyes and ears open, so as not to get stuck in a habitual pattern.
Life is to short to waste it on conforming. Brake the rules and discover something great!
Try things others say can't be done.
Respect others being different than me.
Treasure every moment of my life.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 September, 2008 »

Eating raw, plus being aware of the things going on in the world has made me interested in growing my own food, going 'back to the land' and the importance of community and having a connection to the earth.

I feel my belief in the power of the earth has increased. I feel much more of an intense connection to plants, and have complete faith in Mother Earth regulating herself, even though this might ultimately mean destroying humanity as it has come to be. 
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

then i found NLP

What exactly is NLP – can anyone enlighten me in detail please?

Of course I have heard of it and even looked into having a session ( and have you seen the ridiculous prices they are charging for learning it)

It reminds me a bit of the Freemasons (i.e.) those in the know will tell you nothing about it.



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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

i believe there is more depth and meaning in a smile than there is a discussion on it...

i believe perception is reality..

i believe in belief..

i believe in hokahey!
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

the change in tehj world model - or practicing belief system is primary, food preferncies secondary.

Interstingly my recent rapid spiritual-worldview spiral educattin and changes in my views resulted in return to cooked food, away from fruit, to cook vegies, lots of fat and ocean salt.
This I believe is to suport, clean, regenerate and strenghten teh DNA and the electrical properties and abilities of the body all the way down to intracelular level.


As far as specific belief system or the world models goes, the best and closest expalnation is presented by Anastasia (of course I love her), and is a bit above or deeper of the Vedic system, which predates the Pagan system.
Lately I found real helpfull addition to this in the Hawaian Ho-oponopono system - the total responsibility for everything which happened to me in my life and also for everything which come accros in any form any news anything, the ability to connect to it emotionaly, take responsibility and than clean it via teh tools of Ho-oponopono.

Basicaly it can be sumed up to feel the respionsibility to learn all teh tools possible, to be in top shape and to clean in world anything and everything which is disturbing and has any negative energetig amotional charge to it.

The understanding, that every person has the ability, or can learn to have teh ability, to influence anything around the world vuia love, energy, emotions and to help to change it improve it etc.

This can be briefly explained as teh belief system which says, I have no right to stick my head in my organic garden and leave the world to whatever it is upto.


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question about NLP - Neuro Linguistic Programming

This is used for centries but was formulated into some theory and parctical stuff in the last 100 years.


It is used in selling, advertising, politics, any human and social interaction, in daily family life etc.
It is used to programm masses, and at the same time it can be used to unprogramm - deprogramm, clean out all that programming.


Everybody who is not aware of NLP, its techniques tools etc is being programm by media, givernements, reachers parents friends, etc on a daily basis.


NLP is mixed in with hypnosys, there is no cclear line and You need to study both, also in my view the strongets and substantial part is the TLT - time line therapy.

The very simplified commercialised popularistic for masses NLP version is called Tony Robbins.


NLP is like nuclear energy - You can use it to make bomb or to generate electricity or to heal etc.

NLP is learned by the selsmens bastards by the advertisers by the people who wirtes the speaches for politicians.


Than You have good guys in NLP, who will help You to unprogramm all that negative crap, the limiting believes etc.


NLP is like a box of thousands tools, often not related and depending on whats the prob, proper tool is puled out of the box, so the first contacts with teh NLP teachings can be very confusing, as there seems to missing some ovreru;ing principle or theory, it is like a mechanic toolshop seminars where You learn about various tools and how to use each, but not being able to design the new car or able to find the problem with the old car...

fascinating stuff.

as John said on other thread citing the grandfather of NLP ; If You know how the brain works You can direct Your life, If You dont, somebody else will.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

Where is the question about NLP?  I just see statements...... did you answer your own question and then not need to ask it?

Rudy, your recent rapid spiritual-worldview spiral educattin and changes in my views seems to be a lot of anger.  What are you so fearful of?  If you think too many people are ignoring the the signs you see, can't you just drop the anger/fear about being ignored and just cover all the bases you can see them not covering because they don't understand? Cooked food seems to make you very antogonistic. 

Even though it seems rather aloha, huna and ho-oponopono are warrior systems, not that peaceful.  There is a place for warrior energy, but clean warrior energy does not come out of anger and you seem to have a bit of anger.  Maybe you should go back to basics and clear that one?

Sure some people look like they are burying their head in their organic garden, and some are doing that out of fear, just like all those americans worried about doomsday and their right to bear arms with their canned vegetables in their bombshelters who would whole heartedly express their support of any conspiracy theory; many are in their organic garden from a place of power and they can easily tap into a very clean warrior energy if required, it's just that it is not required at this point for them, and maybe they won't be able to tap into that warrior energy if they need to. 
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

Melb, the NLP question was aksed by Sweetpea.


Thank You for You personal view on my postings, interesting. You are of course aware, that Your interpretation is
result of Your personal filters, emotions and the world models.

I am so glad we are allowed to be different.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 September, 2008 »

great reply on things rudolf Smiley

Sweatpea; NLP has been described as "'an attitude' (of curiosity, and a willingness to experiment), a methodology (the 'meta' model (getting very specific till it can get annoying) - modelling people in general) which leaves behind a trail of techniques(the milton model(getting very vauge till all that remains is the 'structure'), anchoring, stimulus response, changing sub-modalities(a property of the visual modality is brightess for example. contrast, colour etc))". You can learn alot from reading books and the web. Try www.nlpweekly.com. The classic books id recommend are 'the structure of magic' 1 & 2 (for the meta model), "frogs into princes" (for the milton model), and timeline therapy and the basis of personality for something that ties these two things in an adds the TLT ideas. The whole thing is really based around the idea that we have 5 senses and our ability to utilise these senses will detirmine the way we have our internal experiences. Im starting to work in the opposite direction where i have internal experiences of feeling which help me understand the external world and what im seeing / hearing etc. lol. If i was to be a trainer in NLP id probably train everyone i know personal for free, but then ive been told that if people dont hand anything over for what theyre being given the oppourtunity to learn then they wouldnt exactly be committed to using the information in their lives. The problem with me doing that is, i dont exactly like the idea of teaching people who i will find it hard to teach properly, and then so the quality of NLP that people will say theyve been train in, will deminish really quickly, and so to preserve the integrity of the vast amount of learning based around the name "NLP" will lose its 'credability' as being a proper science of behaviour.. Im learning a martial art at the moment and its one of those martial arts that you never charge much for, its something to be handed down in a more mindful way. So yeah if i was to be able to teach NLP im one of those kinds of people that would just teach all i know to anyone who was willing to learn, and i dont know many people who would be willing to learn mind you.. So i suppose charging high would be a way of telling the un-serious to re-clarify their want to learn.

Ive found these books and online resources enough to be useful on myself to help others occasionally when they need help because i have a very well developed auditory/auditory digital modality. You might learn better however through being able to 'see' other people do it in practice and being given instruction.. I havent exactly learned it to a masterful understanding of it but just some of the basic principals have enabled me to 'run my own brain'.

If you have any more questions feel free to PM me about it.
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