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« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 August, 2008 »

Hi Theresa , I would have to disagree they are both talking about the same thing , the gradual erosion of our freedoms. If we don't do something about it IE mass civil disobedient s  I think things will get worst. I guess it depend eds a little on the type of person you are and if you value personal liberty.  I personally would like people  to enjoy freedom to do what ever there lives.

I know you attract into your life what you think about but I cant see that if  we all  focuses  on loving thoughts it is going slow down  the pase of the NWO , however it is probably going to improve an individuals personal circumstances.

I just wonder how our lives would be like of we cant buy organic food ( this is on the cards ) or you can't live as a raw fooder  because unpasteurized food in no longer available ? We can't go where we want to go and live where we want to live ?

Now is the time to stand up for out freedoms while we still have some left.

Don't know what you think about this Simon.
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 August, 2008 »

grow your own organic food....and go wherever we damn well please....you do attract what you think about whether it be positive or negative.....

id much rather put my energies into being in the now,and living and loving life...rather than any dooms day looming....its fun to listen to some of Davids theories and admire his passion.....but then move on,take on board whatever i want or not....
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 August, 2008 »

I agree. It's great to know this stuff and to be able to act in a way that is a positive action in the right direction of freedom of choice, but it's not good to dwell on it every second. I was chatting to a friend about conspiracy stuff the other day and he was telling me of a close friend of his who got so wrapped up in it that he just couldn't see anything good in the world anymore, no reason to live and so he helped himself shuffle of the mortal coil. Very sad for his family and friends.

Balance is required. Making an effort every day to be happy, to inspire happiness in others. It's so important.

Know, act, but be happy.

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« Reply #18 on: Friday 22 August, 2008 »

Hi Simon, Oh I thought I was being clear in what I wrote.  Yes, I definitely agree about the liberty part being similar.  If you are familiar with David Icke's way about him, though, he is brash but not in the same way as George Carlin who, like I said, has another video of him talking about rape being funny (I couldn't watch the whole thing because he was plain wrong in the beginning because he doesn't have the awareness of what it is really like).  He was not speaking with wisdom, freedom, or from the energy of love.  I like to look into all parts of something/someone to see the full picture, and that is why Icke and Carlin are similar but dissimilar.  He is also in more of a fighting mode--it's important to stay as constant as possible in the right energy of the All That Is/love. 

Jennie, I didn't change anything in my posts except for one word each to correct a mistake.  Your comment was fine because it's what you saw and wanted to portray. Smiley  Thanks for your compliment in another thread also; you inspired me too, that's why I contacted you before.

I didn't know that microwaving water did such damage!  I was taught that water is just water, since distilled water also is more just H20, and it may be good to kill the extra microorganisms in the water.  But hmm, now that I think about it, it totally makes sense.  But what about the water hitting boiling on the stove?

I agree, Janita and Jennie, about not letting the negativity overwhelm us.  It takes a lot of strength to be very aware and yet not crumble.  But, I find those crumbling times ok because then we realize our capabilities before and after, where afterward we gain the awareness how we can handle unpleasant things.  I think awareness is the most important thing there is; that entails knowing love also because we then know what is not love. 

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Oh, and thanks for the nice compliment about the picture Jennie.  It was incredible up over Lake Tahoe on the Nevada Rim Trail last weekend!
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

yes awareness is vital in all aspects of  our lives.....i know myself,i tend to cruise along in a dream(more so in the past) if i know im in a 'safe' environment i let that side of me come through,that child like innocence that is my nature.....instead of having to be strong viper woman aware focussed every moment of the day!!can be tiring lol!
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

rather then fearing what evil might come in the world , do something to make good things happening...

(i read it yesterday in NEXUS MAGAZINE)
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

I find it a bit hard to believe that doing some good is going to stop the agenda that is running world wide but I may be very wrong, I really hope so. I would say that most of the folks on this forum treat there fellow human beings with love and compassion. 

Hi Theresa , I know rape is not funny at all and I think George doesn't think that at all and perhaps it something a man can never understand. What he was really saying is that we are brainwashed into thinking  and believing what other want us to think. What he was really saying was that I will think or believe anything I want to. ( Which is supposed to be a right under the US constitution ) Perhaps he could have picked a better subject. I really believe that people should be able to say or think what every they want , if you don't like you simply don't have to listen.

What are we supposed to do as our freedoms are taken away ? feel love and be in the moment ? I don't know how that is going to go, are you saying that I create my own life from my thoughts and it doesn't matter what going on around me ? IE loss off freedoms increased taxation more government interference in our lives.

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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

I find it a bit hard to believe that doing some good is going to stop the agenda that is running world wide but I may be very wrong, I really hope so.

I hope so too Simon. If I allow myself I can become quite frightened by it. I do the best I can to counteract what is happening. It would be great to meet you in person and have a big chat about this. '

Also, I have a faith that good will triumph over not so good and that whatever created us will not allow us to destroy the earth, or ourselves. I think we have a big way to go yet. However, I've not read much about all of this and I'm not very knowledgable. I am just me putting my thoughts out there.

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

question which agenda is running the world..., a Battle can be won for sure - but no War ultimately , not against Spirit...
 
there are different agendas and different visions imo that are already set up and running the 'movie' in this World...
so one is Life-giving , true and everlasting , and the other one an illusion of war, destruction , famine -we all know- that will self-destroy itself and last not forever cause entrophic...

now we -me and you- have to 'tap' in the flow of one of this Visions and keep the Focus , so the Syncronizity is leading us towards the Understanding of the Big Picture of this 'Big' Mosaic step by step , ultimately we are Real and Ever-lasting Culture and Big-Illusion falls apart , how I dont care that much , but we are kind of living it already , we can see it Everyday...

''Nothing Unreal exists , nothing Real can be threatened , theres lies the Peace of God...''

Whom of you here can say : yes i'm living in Reality and away from Illusion , Self-destruction, Enthropy , Babylon etc.etc.?

Are you connected , on the Right Path , do the Angels-Coincidences guide your Life , do you feel safe where you Are , how much Passion do you put in your Dreams??

The more we put in (Love-Passion-Dreams) -- the more we go out (of enthropy , dead, taxes LOL)...

''What are we supposed to do as our freedoms are taken away ? feel love and be in the moment ? I don't know how that is going to go, are you saying that I create my own life from my thoughts and it doesn't matter what going on around me ? IE loss off freedoms increased taxation more government interference in our lives.''

yes , with our actions and thoughts (in peaceful alignement), with our Being , we are far more capable of changes in the world than with any action that is out of alignement with the purpose , -- thats a waste of energy actually...

so asking ourself if we're in right place and moment is the best thing to do ... are we in alignement with purpose , today?


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the 2 vision are easy to discern for anyone by their volume and tone...

one is a gentle bright hopeful silent loevely whisper that works in harmonic cycles (a coming up of Meanings),
the other a loud noisy polluting false scream (that irritates and makes you un-centered , ready to leave)

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does that make sense to someone ?  laugh
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

Sure does Iv! I felt that way when I had to go to the shopping centre earlier. I actually felt myself 'shift' into another gear in order to deal with the harsh lights and hard energy that was in there. No wonder babies cry in shopping centres... it's a weird place.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

Janita, does awareness really make you feel like a viper woman?  Because as a carefree, intuitive child inside, that is aware also.  The thing to do is to link the mind with that, knowing the love/truth and not letting the scary/angering stuff consume us.  It has taken me a while to learn and I still have a little way to go since I grew up very reactive and am deeply caring and sensitive toward what happens to and around me.  I even saw myself as an underground revolutionary when I was 19, but I foresaw that if I stayed with that anger, I would be killed.  Now, that's not productive, is it?  But some people feel they have no choice but to fight when things get so desperate and wrong, and if their situation in their homeland is that horrible, I cannot judge them for that.  I fight in my own way, but I try to keep it with focus to where that "fight" is just keeping the truth no matter what wrong is trying to win.  Maybe that is instead just a steadfastness.  I do wish that there isn't a negative view toward awareness because there is sooo much beauty and peace in it (after the realization of oh my *@%#, I have been so wrong before and the world crashing down a bit in our heads). 

Here's a little story:  There's a couple who told everyone they came across about the Agenda and chemtrails.  They wouldn't give up.  Now they are locked away and medicated in a psychiatric ward.  Sooo sad.  They were right, but the energy they were in was very combative.  Yes, anger is real and fine, but it is not the root; therefore, we definitely should not operate out of it for that long at all.  The root is deep sadness at all the disconnection that is occuring.  It is an inward dealing which is not really threatening to others, hence, there is a protection there because love is present.  I think this is the answer, and it takes awareness to get there.  Without it, we will act so inconsistently within ourselves, like barking dogs and then escapists, so how is that a good thing for us in the long run?

Simon, I know that this energy has dispelled the most frightening things because of its original energetic integrity.  I hope to explain my experiences and research well to people in the book I am writing (but won't be out for a couple of years probably due to this being such an abstract topic, and I am growing still to comprehend more), and I hope there will be people who will want to read it, just as I like to read what others have to say.  Information sharing is powerful. 

Love,
Theresa
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

So I guess it is best to keep your mouth shut sometimes! there are generally only a few really brave people who have to courage to speak out.

So why is all this stuff going on in the world Theresa ? is it because so many people are thinking in a negative way ?

No Frontiers  to  be honest I don't really know what it is your saying we must be on different wave lengths but can  you honesty say that you will for fill you life dreams if the world becomes  a totally different place which I see being on the cards at some time in the future ( or is it just my life I can see ? )
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« Reply #27 on: Saturday 23 August, 2008 »

Some interesting comments and views have been raised...

Personally I'm not interested in conspiracy theories at all beyond yeap....that sounds right...I'll tick that box....take note...add it to my "database" and move on....just another awareness.

I found/find Icke interesting only because he explains so well what I already knew on another level of awareness.

"Conspiracy Theories" is a complete misnomer in many ways 'cause there are conspiracies and hidden agendas everywhere around us...anyone not aware of that hasn't had their second birthday yet (the day they wake up in the world as opposed to being born in it).

BIG mistake to focus on it though in my view.

VERY good to be "aware" of "it"...

So the next question becomes...can "we" as individuals do anything to affect any outcomes....do our thoughts deeds and actions as individuals and a collective global conciousness have an impact.

You better believe it.

Then you end up at a crossroads....is every individuals (and indeed this worlds) "fate" predestined...or predetermined? If that's so then whoever needs to take a stand on anything will...but there's an interesting little twist to that.

Time is a tool...a relative measure...it has a beginning and it has an end. So who or what ever created us exists outside of time and can see it's beginning and it's end (so knows the end result).

We however, are temporarily trapped within it.

Ah there's so much more to this.

See where this discussion leads  I reckon before adding anything else....lol

I'm off to play Poker.

John

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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 24 August, 2008 »


  grow your own organic food....

Yes but if the Codex thing comes into being, it will actually be illegal to grow your own organic food at home.

I know Codex has nothing to do with David Icke per se, but he does cover loss of basic freedoms, Big Brother etc...so it is along the same lines.
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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 24 August, 2008 »

I went into his web site.

What the talks that about the royalty that are reptilians and when they are together they change form into these strange reptilian creatures. He was saying that the Queen mother was so sweet but in her reptilian form she was not.

I do not think I can believe him

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