+ cant agree more on the fact that past , previous , and future are now...

in the bible and precisely new testament , passages of reincarnation have been intentionally modified, deleted, hidden for different reason by the religious power-holders from the people...

if we grew up more aware of the re-incarnation thing and karmic consequences of Life, like other spiritual traditions have, we (as Christians in a wide sense of the term LOL) perhaps would have taken more responsabilities in the things we have done and are doing in our Life... ie. less mess...

Dear Ivan this is exellent question.


Answers were already presented.

Melb gave the link to the exellent article.

Hiding from emotion and from the need to solve-clear them.

escaping to concept of higher enlightenement using shortcuts.

This is valid here too.


Icke himselves talks about concept of BUBLE PEOPLE, well this are not only those who do not want to know or see what is happening, but also to those who do not want to closely follow what is happening.


The old world, teh world of illuminatis, the world of evil forces, the faked world, teh world with faked values etc is ending.

The new world, teh world of complete and total love is beggining.

Parts of it already exist.

Parts of teh old already died.


We are also told, this will continue and will be completed regardless of if we do something or not, momentum is already so strong that tghis could not be stopped.


This is all well and true, but there is allways but and however (2 most important english words  )

In teh old plan teh old world would go away with complete distruction and disasters.

What that would mean for the new one - starting from the roubles from scratch, and possibly not very pleasant for the new world earthlinks.

Teh plan has been changed :


The old will go gently, slowly gradually, bit by bit, in small steps and will be transformed

So not everything will be destrooyed, lot will be just recyclked, modified given differnt use and purpose.


So how can we be part of tghis gradula process of transformation - better say how we can guide this transformation into what we would like - to our creation, manifestation etc, if we refuse to look in teh details into what is it today to what actually iluminatis do today how they lost yesterday etc.

If You follow this process of day to day basis and know what to look for, it is quite interesting, encouraging sometimes even entertaining.


The best of all is, that teh iluminatis are fighting each other, they separated into many fractions, and are becoming quite ruthless how they attack each other.

They are no longer united, they do not have a big plan, they spend teh enrgy in their internal fights, trying either to seize total control (these have not understood yet that it is all over for them) or to save they skjin they image etc - these are slowly getting it.

Thjis is a result of the fact, that about 2 years ago, the enrgu feed from the satanic evil forces was switched off and these slaves on the Earth are running on pure momentum till they smash against something which will stop them.

Icke himself does not present too much confidence, he cant see how it is all changing, he si still too scared in my view.

But he is not addressing us, who already know it he is addressing teh buble society trying to wake the masses up, so perhaps thats the tool he needs to use

CERN allert.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=627666

much smaller "experiment" few months ago resulted in activation of the south american volcano and at the same time casued the catastrophic earthquake in China. We all remeber teh consequences.
before that experiment was conducted it had strong oposition especioaly from Russia - both on political and teh scientific levels.

In the internet forums in europe it was commented as teh accident as the experiment going wrong as the incopetence of mad scientist etc, people generaly did not take a view that it might have been deliberate act of terrorism - better say the pretraining for it like a small rehersall.


So now, these illuminatis-neaocons are goingh to do it big. The choice of the place for all this csientific establishemnet - Swiss is no coincidence, as this is a base place for illuminatis - thier banks and the only country outside of Hitlers power - remeber Hitler was created by them.

So they have a superweapon ready to fire. Nobody knows how many days, weeks months it would take to destroy something. But if tehre are huge earthquakes, volcano activations, tsunamis, land going under the water and new land rising up, You know who did it.

On trhe other hand there would be huige oposition against this, people and orghanization will use various means to stop it or slow it down, and hopefully the beings of light will help too.

All this manifesting activity to stop this madness can result in very violent weather in EU, enormous storms, superhigh winds basicaly trying to destroy the electricity power gridd ofthe erea. The experiment is using huge amount of power electricity - equal to electricicty consumption of the big city, so any power supply interuption will stop the experiment.

Is it a coincidence that these violent weather was predicted for this time of year for europe ?

The little science idiot - aussie this morning on TV sjhow was exited like a dog with 2 ****, telling bull*s like this will teach us everyting we do not know about physics, solev teh climate problems superconductivity, cheap and clean electric power etc, complete nonsense, but it just shows hwo this bunch considers the public as complete idiots.

We cant hide in organic garden, we need to closely watch they steps and actively generate the counterenergies.


By tghe way it is allways about people : election in WA - 2 issues, results of the voting :

genetic crop in WA : YES

uranium mining in WA : YES

is anybidy going to be surprized, that the state where people vote for environment total destruction will get some destruction but not in the way which will feed their $$$ gread. I would not be surprized if their wish will get answered soon, hello Perth.

You reminded me MissBliss of something I "once knew'...ya resparked it.

The further one (individual, society...whatever) is removed from the source of something the more "polluted" it becomes. Polluted,confused,corrupted,distorted,misinterpreted. The "source" is untouched and unmoved and indeed immutable, but the perception of it is....as wet clay to whoever holds it.

Some (most?) seem to want no responsibilty and fail to realise regardless the consequences they (we all) create.

Among all the confusion there are signposts pointing "the way back"...real ones....lotsa fake ones as well...

This be an interesting conversation here...

The current state of affairs among many (talking generally about the world) reminds of two quotes:

"If you know how the brain works, you can set your own directions. If you don't, then someone else will."

Richard Bandler

"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about."

John von Neumann

in a display of total arogance, the 27km calibre wmd is started on the eve of the 11sep aniversary.

in the first hours of low power testing, the earthquakes of smallish scale are reported in Chile and Iran.


Opec imidiately retaliates with announcing the cut in oil production.

For few months Venezula in desperate attempt to secure protection is inviting Rusian military and is planning on exercise of russian navy in Venezulean territorial water, hoping it was not target by the wmd, only the traditional forces (for its oil fields).

Argentina and Brazil sign agreament, in which USD is no longer the only currency used to settle their trades (USD was compulsory till now).


watch for the dam system on chinese main rivers, and for the old prediction of the city of latest olympiads....


Big media are running around the clock the propaganda to discredit any oposition to this "scientific experiment"
using all sorts of low balls hoping in the stupidity of the public but carefully avoiding any mention of the real purpose.


Blis is based on electrical charge, waves, as is love. The huge system of powerfull electromagnets will be able to mess up with these energies once pulsing of the magnets is fed by proper modulating frequencies.


wake up humanity