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« on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

I just ate half a watermelon for breakfast, and again I got really bad pains in my abdominal and also upper body. It lasts maybe 15 mins. I have had this before after eating watermelon. I don't get this from anything else.

I usually do mono for breakfast, so it was the first thing I ate, and not combined with any other fruit.

It's not about quantities either, because I have no problem eating loads more of other fruit.

Any ideas??? Anyone experienced this? 


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« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

I think Jim mentioned something about this awhile back. He said that he found he needed to eat the watermelon more slowly. I'm not sure if he said this bit or my memory is playing tricks but really assimilating it well with saliva before swallowing might help too.

Good luck!

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

I've experienced the same thing.  I don't know why it happens, but I do suspect that it may be the quantity eaten.  I didn't realise how much watermelon I actually eat in a sitting until I weighed myself once before and after eating.  It takes a lot more watermelon for me to reach satiation than any other fruit, but it doesn't feel like I'm eating more of it.  I think the speed I eat may also be a factor so I make sure I chew it well now.

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

I still have no answer with this one.

I only get this problem with apples, watermelon and grapes and sometimes Mango in summer - generally any watery fruit. Although I dont get it with oranges all that often.  The pain is in the upper right abdomen (pancreas/gall bladder/stomach valve area)  lasts from 5-15 minutes after stopping eating, sometimes the pain is so intense I have had to drop to the floor in agony!!! Mainly happens first meal of a day, so I always eat light in morning or nothing at all.

Generally it is because of eating too much, too fast -  but not always - just too much volume. But when its just 2-3 apples that does it, sometimes I think its more to do with my inability to digest that certain type of fruit. So generally I avoid apples and grapes as they are the worst proponents of it. Watermelon I can get by with if I eat it very slowly.

I still can't digest things that well, so I am hoping with a long fast I might be able to make improvements with this problem. So far in a year it is no better or worse.

I hope its just a warning sign about poor eating habits or transitioning digestion, rather than a bigger issue like a problem with the pancreas. Eating big for 2 meals a day as Doug recommends as the 'ideal' is a place I have tried to get too but haven't yet made due to this problem.   So for now I am still eating 4-5 meals a day, most of them later in the day and I am fine!


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

Geez havent had that one before, but if its a problem for you its only 1 fruit, maybe avoid it for a while till your digestion improves.

I had some watermelon this morning blended up with a tablespoon of chia seeds. I ate it with a spoon (well i drank some of it), but using the spoon for most of it slowed down my eating, and the chia seeds made it more satisfying for how much fruit i was eating. Maybe that could be a way to do it?

Personally ive found just eating alot of one fruit really bad, leaves me very bloated and probs half an hour later im very tired, ive had alot more sucess eating smaller meals and including some fats.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 August, 2008 »

Thanks for the input, people.

Interesting… I will try to eat the other half of my watermelon slower. Possibly blended with a spoon will do the trick. I usually don't mix fruit and fat, so not sure about the chia. But seems you haven't had a problem with it, kebbster.

Will let you know if slower solves the problem. Would hate to have to give up eating watermelon, especially once summer comes around.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 August, 2008 »

If slower does solve the problem, chia seeds would probably have the same effect. Since it seems to be stomach irritation rather than bowel, if it is something irritating to your stomach in the watermelon, the chia would be absorbing some of the watermelon liquid reducing the volume of the irritating component that is free to irritate.  If it is just the speed, the chia would also slow it down by bulking it all up and slowing it down a bit.
If whatever is being irritated in the stomach is also irritated in the small intestine or large intestine, the chia might prolong the effect, but because the stomach is acidic, things it finds irritating don't usually irritate the bowel.........

Yet again all proving that one system or eating can't work for every body, we're individual digestive tracts.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August, 2008 »


Whilst I was juice feasting, I had a few days of mono watermelon juice and experienced acute pain (to the point of being doubled over, such was the discomfort) in my spine.   I also felt pain in my upper tummy and shoulder, this pain would subside within 30 mins of consumption of watermelon juice.

It was suggested to me on one of the juicing forums, that this reaction could be from kidney stones, as watermelon is a great kidney cleanser.  This is why I did a number of days of mono watermelon juice, I was hoping I was flushing/dissolving any stones that I might have.

There were a few of these watermelon juice meals consumed where I felt no pain afterwards or less severe pains, so I imagined I was having some success but can't really confirm if it is/was kidney stones as the next days that I consumed watermelon juice the pain returned.

Would be really interesting to know for sure why this reaction occurs.  Initially I was worried that I might have some sort of an intolerance to watermelon to cause such a reaction, would much prefer to think that it is a cleansing reaction as watermelon is so delish!
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 August, 2008 »

my appology for comming back to forum (it is just for this topic, promisse) and for breaking some forum rules in my post, I am doing it in the hope, that it might help some of the people.

I am having same issues.

The pain is really terrible, sometimes it is in the tummy are but most often the pain is right in the shoulders, between shoulders and neck, might go to the elbows etc.

The pain localization is not important.

The reason for this reaction is.

It is sugar and the sugar metabolism response.

I have this reaction to watermelon, grapes, very ripe and sweet type of appless, ripe mago, very ripe bananas.

It does not take too much to realize it is all from very sugary fruits.

I also have this from some dry fruits, like figs, dates - its only sugar really.

If I eat the same fruits not cery ripe - not very sugary or tghe type of aqpples whicj are not sweet or part of that fruit which is not sweet (like white and green part of watermellon), or banans which on this forum are called unripe
and which I call not rotting yet, tehre is no reaction at all.

When I get this reaction sometimes quickly eating unripe banana or sour apple, or some toast with some fat etc will quickly stop it, If I have some veg soup ready thats the absolute best.


The fact that is stoped with complex carbohydrates (not overripe fruit or vegs, grains, or fat (I assume eating protein meal will do it as well), clearly shows this is about the sugar metabolism.
The fact that chiaseeds will do teh trick also support this, just read teh chiassed articles - why and how they "cure" or manage teh diabetes ...

Also what is important is that this only happens to me while eating thiose oversugary fruits first thing in teh morning, and more so if teh day before was physicaly exhausting or after morning run, and during the day only after being hungry for many hours.

So it is likely when the blood sugar level could be on teh low side and sudden release of sugar creates too big change or gradients etc and drives the sugar metabolism and insuline regulkation metabolism into panic - overdrive etc.


We can ask - does this mean that the person with such reaction is not very healthy and needs to improve, ior we can ask - is the oversugary food very unnatural and tghe reaction is reaction of the healthy body giving warnings against such a sugar abuse, and those who have no reaction are so weak, that even the warning is not being able to be manifested ?


I do not know.

When I eat honey and lots of it on empty stomach I never have teh reaction at all, but in some instances when I buy lowquality susopuicious honey, which was probably diluted by sugar very significantly - I might have some mild form of this reactio too.


My conclusion after years is :


The oversugary fruit was not designed by God it was manufactured by stupid humans in last 200 years for commercial purposes by selection, genetics etc... so it is not really human food, possibly not more than red coloured lolly.

I understand this is very controversial on this forum, where fruit is God ideology is prevailing and arguments about fruit was humans food for thousands of years is repeated over and over, but it was not sweet fruit, this is novelty
and in my view is harmfull


sorry for teh controversy and for teh intrusion, if only 1 person would be helped I am glad.

Lots of love everybody
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 August, 2008 »

This only happens to me when i eat seedless hybrid watermelon. I always feel sick after seedless watermelon. When i eat watermelon with seeds i eat the seeds aswell as it helps with kidneys. I never feel sick with watermelon that has seeds or get stomach pangs. Its my fave fruit and its much sweeter and juicier and filling. I always avoid seedless.
Im not saying that maybe thats what your eating but i can tell a big difference when i eat the 2 varieties.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 August, 2008 »

Haven't read everyone elses responses but what did you eat the night before? I know if I eat even a small amount of fat late at night then eat melon the next day on top then (depending on my activity levels) the fat can still be sitting in my stomach hence they mix together causing stomach upset.  Also the speed at which u ate it could definitely be a factor.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 August, 2008 »


Hey Rudolf,

I'm glad you shared your thoughts and experiences on this topic, I found them helpful and interesting.  Hope you continue to drop in, you contribute valuable input to the forum.

Warmly,
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 29 August, 2008 »

were you hydrated enough..for maximum digestive fire?had you exercised prior to eating melon....yes eat it slowly,dont overeat it.....when you feel full,stop!!

agreed about what you ate the night before....how late did you eat it..how many hours before your last meal and then the melon...was your belly truly empty?
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