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« on: Saturday 06 September, 2008 »

He-He...

I never thought things can get that close as they sometimes do... :-)

When Life is meaningful for you , all things become meaningful and inter-connected, and , the more you live your purpose , the more you get closer to a certain LOGOS , to a Pattern , to an Understanding where everything unfolds in the Right Time , Divine Timing... and see , you start seeing the Logic behind your Life and more important , behind the People that have grown up near-with you , and/or are now part of your Life... (aka family , friends, companions)...

to make it short and understandable (LOL) I found myself (co-incidence) reading in a interesting Astrological Book lately whilst working , called the Secret Language of Birthdays, ...and was astonished ! by how things sometimes are so close to the Individuality of Every Soul-Charachter...

I was reading my brothers chart , and laughing-loud cause so close to truth (a volcano), then my fathers and mum that fitted in perfectly , + some people i met in Life exactly...

everything becomes easier to understand and accept , when you get to know the 'Real Side' of everyone , the strong and less strong sides , the influences , and you become more forgiving and accepting , to your own nature and to others nature... cause you KNOW EM...

+ at least ... you can work on the aspects and challenges of your Life , when you know where...

well said , i dont follow any particular astrologer , yet believe firmly more and more in the Living Logic of the Cosmos , with its Aspects, Influences , Cycles... aka in Astrology

''we have choosen the Time to come and be on Earth , with reason...''

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 September, 2008 »

i dont follow any particular astrologer

I don’t really follow any particular astrologer either but I do find Jonathan Cainer to be spookily accurate.

I read his predications often and I find it amazing that they normally reflect what is going on in my life at that particular time.

Another thing that I really like about him is the way he writes. Often his predications are hard to read or understand, so you find yourself really paying attention to them and analysing them in depth.

Here is his link in case anyone is interested:

http://www.cainer.com/

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 September, 2008 »

I do yes, but i dont have a way to make sense of it in a way that ties in with my experience. Where i am at in my journey is to master my own conciousness and perception independant of other factors.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 September, 2008 »

interesting Phil, i used to think the same way and in part thinking so , but not fully anymore :-)

starting to 'live' astrology and becoming more aware everyone of us , of the influences-cycles that are determining human soul and its life , + mastering and growing its own conscioussnes-light , this all can be done in an integrated way very beautifully and they will together both actually sustain , improve , help each other on the path to self-realization..., i dont see separation...

Oracle of Delphi said it well with 'Know Thyself'...

(integral-ethical) astrology may be seen more as knowing, mirroring and empowering yourself (once you know you work-plasm with conscioussnes as you say) , ie. its less about being blindly influenced by stars and planets as the main-stream astrology would you like to believe...

so yeahs , i agree with you Phil on that , yet integrating-focusing Astrological Knowledge (or just 'feeling it intuitively like the Moon Influences can be felt') whilst doing the 'empowering work' with conscioussness-light , this all may even further enrich your experiences , do you believe so...?!

Thanks to your contribution hey... and Sweetpea also...,

so if it comes to astrologers perhaps Maya del Mar in America would be the one i recommend... She passed over but the day-keeper Journal is still dedicated to her and her work , another author is covering now the work , its all still free to watch-follow online... She was a friend of James Redfield btw, the Prophecy of Celestine Author...

heres a link: http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/calendar.shtml





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« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 September, 2008 »

the cart and the donkey

the donkey - cart vehicle was parked on a steep hill, and teh donkey was not able to hold the cart.

The cart started to pull back in reverse and donkey was resisting this but still walking backwards pulled by the cart.

The man goes by, see this and say - oh I see, this is how it is correct, the cart first and donkey follows.

The man later decide to start the astrology business.

He inderstand, that the soul in the reincarnation cycles allways plans the next life properly, for what needs to be learned in what circumstances etc. He also undesratnd that these lesson in the proper form and circumstances are presented under specific energy forms and influencies and as everybody up there in heaven knows this is guaranteed on teh Earth also - partialy by the positioning of the stars etc at specific dates.

So the sould and teh souls teachers - soul supervisors not only carefuly plan the place to be born, also teh family the choice of parents, country, political system, social condition and all that jazz, but also of course teh planetary alignements and so the date of birth is picked precisely

All these guarantees the energies needed for the lesson to be learned and obstacles to be presented as well as person preferential behaviour.


So the new profession creator - the first astrologer realized, that if he learn from cart - donkey incident, he can
talk to peole about thgeir lifes from the data as date, time and place of their birth.


These people only cant remeber, that they actualy picked these life experienxces first and teh date of birth second, so they are amazed at the accuracy of the prediction.


sorry for the joke, nothing like this happened actualy, just my creation  uhuh
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 September, 2008 »

No...


But i do believe in belief..
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 September, 2008 »

Thanks for that no-frontiers. I suppose if i was to start to observe something itd be the moon. Ive recently been working on building up prana/mana through breathing so i can send that to my subconcious mind/the lower spine, and also holding the right attitudes in life that will help me straighten my spine so that when the kundalini awakens i wont have any of that pain happening. Its not that im searching for techniques, its a matter that ive never been fond of forcing anything, even when learning drumming, ive found that i learn/develop best when i just allow it. And so ive lived this in other areas of my life including martial arts.

Do you have MSN or anything? Send me a PM with you address or something.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 September, 2008 »

''Thanks for that no-frontiers. I suppose if i was to start to observe something itd be the moon.''

Great Phil , i was meditating on this lately : the more you go deeper in observing-feeling the moon , the more you'll reckonize that 'the everydays moon position' is influenced for a certain period of time (2 1/2 - 3 days) by a particualr planet (star) of constellation and that the same planet is with moon influencing again different and alternating parts of human organism , plant , animal as mineral kingdom on Earth ---as other things in Cosmos i reckon but lets stay on Earth---- , usually there are exact definitions of this to understand , ie. the correspondence of planet with human organism for example , or with plant and animal , mineral kingdom... is that hard explained? hope not , but to come back to first post this could explain that our date of birth (just for example) was already influenced by the positions of Planets and Moon and that this Energies (also called Angels sometimes - Elohim) were working on us since then... Its not a case that the same different 'Energies' or 'Angels' are working on different Levels and Parts of Whole Creation and constantly going trough a 'Cycle' alternating - this even trough the course of the Day , hour , minute , everything is changing , we can observe it.....

I resonate on the forcing vs. allowing quest you pointed out... some people say to allow everything but dont create any negativity when doing things (like being lazy eg LOL)...

Enjoy every experience but be fully aware always , thats a key to transformation...

i have no MSN , but Yahoo Chat perhaps LOL... will send you pm yeah...

Rudolf on your Creation...

even if i dont understood fully (i should take more time to read perhaps) theres been some great clearing along the Line... thanks mate

OJ1: so where does belief ends ? and where does true knowledge start? food for thought hey... :-)

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 September, 2008 »

I already posted link to dreaming the pyramide site on the UFO topic, but as I was reading there, the part of it explains the teaching of the pyramid design and there is good chapter on the astrology.
I was also very fascinated by the PI - 22 - 7 - 3 - 142875 pages, especialy the last one, wow

http://www.dreamingthepyramid.net/humanpyramid.html

this is some part from it :

In LINDA GOODMAN'S STAR SIGNS, (now deceased) author Linda Goodman states that the main reason why Jesus had twelve disciples was that each of the Disciples represented one sign, and that Jesus, being the center of the twelve, was able to pull in and assimilate the best qualities of each Disciple, thereby personifying  ...the thirteenth sign.¹

These wise words have a direct equivalent within First Nations culture. Our elders often say that a person is not supposed to remain fixed in one place on the great Circle of Life. Instead, we are meant to move around in constant motion - always perfecting ourselves and taking in and assimilating the very best qualities of every Being and experience we come in contact with, thereby helping us become a better person.

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BECOMING THE THIRTEENTH SIGN.

For a moment, imagine being able to relate with
anyone on the entire planet regardless of differences
in language, culture and traditions, beliefs,
their sexual orientation, and financial status. Picture
yourself being able to completely sympathize with
everyone's ideals, fears and doubts, and aspirations.
Eventually, being "at one" with everyone else means
that bickering, jealousy, and disagreements would
lessen (though any healthy couple will tell you that
some degree of discord can actually be a good thing).
Does this sound like something you might like?
Assimilating all of the twelve signs into your character
is your ticket allowing you to experience that reality.
It is a worthwhile goal to achieve because it places
you on even ground with everyone else - giving you
additional insights into their character
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 September, 2008 »

interesting on the 13th sign - :-)

''The challenge of astrology is that we should not only familiarize ourselves with the strengths and weaknesses presented by our birth sign, but learn about all the signs and eventually become every sign in one - a "thirteenth” sign. By becoming the one sign that contains all the others, we then become more in tune with spirit and thus are able to relate with almost anyone regardless of the character they have. This thirteenth astrological sign is nameless, possessing no symbol of its own. In fact, most people aren't even aware it exists...''

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 September, 2008 »

13th sign is represented by the top of the pyramid
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