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« on: Wednesday 04 January, 2006 »

Hey came upon this post written by the magical Miss Bliss on another forum.... thought provoking to say the least. After we chatted about it we both felt RP would benifit by having it as well.

"Just innocently doing the clothes washing today with Ecologic Lavender Bio Degradable Laundry Liquid, when I noticed the word Zeolite jump out at me. The product said it contains no Zeolite.....amongst other things...but it said this FIRST! So I was immensely curious, as I had just come across Zeolite in Foot Chi Patches, that was processed using NanoTechnology. And like I noted in another thread, I am suspicious of it - though have yet to get some good hard facts. And now here was an envirnmentally responsible product, boasting it had no Zeolite.

So off I trotted to the internet and looked for whatever I could find...this is what turned up http://www.cqs.com/zeolite.htm

The following is quoted from the above link:

Potential Danger - Don't Eat Zeolite!

The newest multi-level-marketing product called Natural Cellular Defense is already being promoted on the Internet, and people are signing up to sell it. It is claimed that it will "kill epithelial cancer cells, 100% kill rate, detoxify heavy metals and all toxins easily, and [it] disables viral replication by capturing viral components within it's [sic] cage like structure." It is further claimed that this product, derived from a volcanic Zeolite mineral called clinoptilolite, is not toxic. The company cites a small study that demonstrated that the cancers of terminally-ill patients went into remission when they consumed the product.

The manufacturers of Natural Cellular Defense claim that their product is completely safe and are promoting it as something that healthy people should take to prevent disease. But there are many unanswered questions. Mineral crystals - both fibrous and non-fibrous - have a long history of causing disease. For instance, silica crystals - ordinary fine sand - cause lung cancer and a fast-acting deadly lung disease called silicosis that kills cement workers and miners.

Rik Deitsch, one of the principals of the company that promotes this new product, has revealed electron microscope data indicating that the crystals of this product have sharp edges. He states that these crystals enter the bloodstream (presumably through the small intestine), cells, and intercellular spaces, and that they are highly reactive. In relation to a non-food product that is a red flag. It is precisely this crucial piece of information that raises unanswered questions about its safety:

What does it do inside the cell and inter-cellular spaces?

What reactions does it mediate or interfere with?

Does it stay inside the cell and become part of it?

Does it leave the cell and intercellular spaces? Is it excreted?

Since it is a reactive mineral, how does it react with each of the thousands of cellular bio-chemicals, hormones, neurotransmitters, and essential fatty acids? (Some of these bio-chemicals are not even known.)

How does it get into the cell? Does it enter through a protein channel, or does it break a hole in the cell membrane?

What does it do to developing cells or tissue?

If it can enter cells from the bloodstream, then it can likely enter into the cerebrospinal fluid. If so, what does it do to the neural membrane or to developing brain cells?

Does it affect the operation of the cell organelles (components of the human cell), and, if so, how?

Does it enter into or affect the nuclear envelope (that is, does it affect DNA and RNA)?

Does it enter or affect the mitochondria, our energy subsystem?

Is the immune system aware of the presence of the particles? Does it go into overdrive, eventually leading to allergy, MCS, or auto-immune disease?

These unanswered questions suggest that we simply do not know very much about this material. That is the critical difference between a food-derived substance, such as a dietary supplement, and this product, which is pulverized rock. Humans have been eating food and food extracts for hundreds of thousands of years. In contrast, it would seem inadvisable to take a small cancer study of a non-food substance and turn it into a vast human experiment. It would be very different if the company submitted its work to the National Cancer Institute for a larger study with terminally ill cancer patient volunteers. But instead it is subjecting the entire human population to the product and promoting it via a multi-level marketing organization.

Please take my advice: Stay with food-based natural therapies, such as those developed by well-known researchers and physicians such as Dr. Matthias Rath and Dr. Hugh Riordan. These have been used successfully by thousands of people and proven safe.

References:

Physical Carcinogens, excerpted from Cancer Medicine, http://www.cancer.org/downloads/PUB/DOCS/SECTION3/16.pdf

Korkina LG, Suslova TB, Nikolova SI, Kirov GN, Velichkovskii BT. Mekhanizm tsitotoksicheskogo deistviia prirodnogo tseolita klinoptilolita [Mechanism of the cytotoxic action of the natural zeolite clinoptilolite]. Farmakologiia i Toksikologiia 47:63-67(1984).

Pylev LN, Krivosheeva LV, Bostashvili RG, Possible carcinogenic hazard of zeolite-clinoptilolite Gig Tr Prof Zabol. 1984 Mar;(3):48-51.
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 January, 2006 »

Namaste Dmetri,thank you for you informative thought provoking post....these questions are so important to ask ourselves...
totally agree with you ,in that we need to stay with in the realms of our raw foods to get our health giving life force..

thank you for taking the time to bring to our attention the vitalness of knowledge...as i always say knowledge is power...learn learn learn...we never stop learning...

i am daily introducing more and more natural organic products into my life...skin care..makeup ect ect and tossing out the old junk...we need to consider so carefully what we apply to our bodies not just what we are ingesting...and as you so rightly pointed out..even in our washing powders...

peace to you learned friend...
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 January, 2006 »

my deepest humblest apologies  to my beautiful sister bliss...i must've been rather 'cross-eyed' when i read the post,it quite obviously states that you wrote the post that Dmetri bought to our attention...so sorry dear one...

totally awesome post-just like you,filled with pure beams of the warmest light...thank you for your insight and taking the time to write such a fabulouse expose!!
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 January, 2006 »

Hey there Beautiful Angel Janita - tis ok!   kiss  Thanks for your wonderfully supportive words of the imprtance it is to continue learning and questioning. 

Yes - I was very surprised that the laundry detergent said THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS NO ZEOLITE, as I had already written a post about my concerns over Zeolite processed with NanoTechnology contained within Chi Foot Detox Patches, in another thread here. 

So am still most curious about it.  It is leading me on to question other things too.    rolleyes ie.  I am really wanting to buy an Infra red sauna but now I am suspicious as to how good for one it is to be heated up from the inside, like food is in a microwave!!!!  Can't find anything so far that says beware of them.  But will see what others think by posting a question soon.

Thanks Dmetri for putting my post here......I am a little computer frazzled these days.....but still wish to input occassionally....

Love to All Beamings   cheesy
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Thanks for all this interesting info guys  smiley love to seek out all this new knowledge
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 January, 2006 »

Hello,

I personally have used the chi foot patches that contain nanotechnology processed zeolite with vey good results. I only questioned it later when miss bliss caught my attention on it. I am realy unsure of it all as there is loads of information out there but what to believe?

This is the e-mail I recieved after I enquired about the chi foot patches containing nanotechnology processed zeolite.

Zeolite is a naturally occurring mineral that has a range of significant benefits and attributes. Please find attached a background reference document on zeolite. It has a reputation for removal of toxins from the body including radioactive substances. At nanotechnology size, the surface area is much larger and it is therefore more effective. It is impregnated in the fabric of the Chi foot patches for maximum effect sitting against the skin.
 
 Zeolites–a mineral created from molten lava–can make a difference in maintaining your health.  Zeolites are natural volcanic minerals that are mined in certain parts of the world.  When volcanoes erupt, molten lava and thick ash pour out.  Because many volcanoes are located on an island or near an ocean, this lava and ash often flow into the sea.  Thanks to a chemical reaction between the ash from the volcano and the salt from the sea, amazing minerals like zeolites are formed in the hardened lava over the course of thousands of years.
All-natural zeolites have been shown to:
o     Remove heavy metals, toxins and other compounds from the body;
o     Balance the body’s pH levels
o     Support a healthy immune system.
 What makes zeolites so amazing is the fact that it’s not only one of the few negatively- charged minerals found in nature, but it also has a very unique structure.  Zeolites have large, vacant spaces (or cages) that allow space for large, positively-charged ions to be attracted to it, then trapped and eliminated from the body.
When were Zeolites discovered?  This class of minerals was first discovered in 1756 by Swedish mineralogist, Axel Fredrick Cronstedt.  He discovered stilbite, one type of zeolite, and then he found that stilbite visibly lost water when heated.  Based on this anomaly, he named the class of materials zeolites– Greek for “boiling stones.”  For nearly 20 years, zeolites were considered an obscure little group of minerals–until we learned that its unique complex, crystalline framework of cavities and channels has many useful purposes–including detoxification.
What do Zeolites do for us?  Thanks to the honeycomb-like structure, a zeolite works at the cellular level to trap allergens, heavy metals and harmful toxins.  In fact, because it is one of the few negatively-charged minerals in nature, a zeolite acts as a magnet, drawing toxins to it, capturing them in its cage, and removing them safely and naturally from your body. This unique ability to remove dangerous toxins is so well documented, it was used by the Russians to absorb radioactive chemicals and other harmful toxins after the Chernobyl disaster.
For centuries, the powdered forms of specific zeolites have been used for traditional remedies throughout Asia to promote overall health and well being.  The story of the “healing rocks” has been passed down from generation to generation.  More recently, the medical community has been looking into the cancer-fighting potential of zeolites and very much liking what they see. Because zeolites are minerals found in nature, they are 100% natural, safe and non-toxic. 
Specific forms of zeolites have also been recognized by the FDA with GRAS (generally regarded as safe) status.  Zeolites have been shown to trap heavy metals–like lead, cadmium, and arsenic–in its “cages” and safely remove them from your system through the body’s waste process.
Cancer-fighting potential - According to the 2003 issue of Anti-cancer Research, micronized zeolite, combined with a standard chemotherapy treatment (Doxorubicin), reduced the metabolic rate of cancer cells, significantly reduced the amount of metastasis to the lungs and increased the anti-cancer effects of the chemotherapy treatment.  Similarly, a PhD researcher working for a small pharmaceutical company in Ohio found that micronized zeolites provide amazing results for treatment of cancer.  After researching and testing zeolite’s ability to treat epithelial cell cancer (the skin tissues that cover and line your body and all of your bodily organs), he was granted an exclusive patent by the US government, entitled Epithelial Cell Cancer: Drug.  His research showed that zeolites, when injected directly into a cancerous tumor, had a 100% kill rate.
 A pH Powerhouse - In addition to providing cancer protection, zeolites can also play a crucial role in supporting your pH-balancing system. Your pH status is so critical because your body depends on remaining slightly alkaline for your very survival.  In its natural healthy state, your body is slightly alkaline, with a pH between 7.35 and 7.45.  All parts of your system–including the mineral balance inside and outside the cells, the alkaline mineral reserves within the bones and three buffer systems in the blood–all work together, along with the lungs and the kidneys, to prevent the body from becoming either overly acidic or overly alkaline.
Unfortunately, everything from the foods you eat to the pollutants you encounter, even stress produces acidic chemicals.  This overabundance of acidity usually tips your ideal alkaline state into an acidic pH range that can create a long list of physical and emotional ailments, including digestive disorders, loss of muscular strength, reduced cardiovascular capacity and impaired immunity.  Once again, zeolites come to the rescue. By trapping excess protons (positively-charged hydrogen ions) in the digestive tract, zeolites can help to lower your risk of acid reflux.  This has the added benefit of improving nutrient absorption in the digestive tract.  Zeolites can also aid in balancing the pH of your bloodstream, thereby reducing the risk of systemic bacterial infection.  Bacteria thrive in a slightly acidic environment, and by buffering the pH levels, zeolites create a healthier environment and allow your body to reduce bacterial loads in the blood, while also easing the burden on your body’s natural buffering system.
Nemesis for Viruses - Research has shown that zeolites have an antiviral effect based on the incorporation of viral particles into the pores and channels of the mineral, thereby preventing viral assembly and proliferation.  Thus, the zeolites in question may aid in lowering the risk of cold and flu infections!

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 January, 2006 »

Here is an e-mail I just received, thought it may be of interest.

Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) seems to be living up to its name in an
extraordinary way. Each week more information is revealed.  Anecdotal
reports of cancer healing in 2-4 weeks keep occurring.

Additionally several reports suggest that zeolite’s outer coat
absorbs glucose and has dropped blood sugar by as much as 50 points in 1 hour
in cases of serious diabetes.

As the research unfolds for preparing women for pregnancy by removing
the 14 major toxins in breast milk, the initial results seem more than
extraordinary. The average woman, whether she has been vegan for 15
years or on live foods for 6 years, tests positive for 12-14 toxins in her
liver, breast, and brain. After one week on our 10-day detoxification
program while taking 15 drops 4 times a day of NCD, the average decrease
in toxins was to 0 to 2 toxins in the liver, breast, and brain with no
detoxification symptoms. One person, who did not take the NCD, had a
reduction of only one toxin in the liver, breast, and brain. So far 5
people, which is 100% of those tested with the synergy of our 10-day
detoxification & NCD, have gone from 12-14 toxins to 0-2 toxins after only
one week.
 Natural Zeolite Product - Summary

This summary details a major breakthrough in detoxifying the human body
of the carcinogens, heavy metals, viruses, bacteria, fungi, and overall
acid conditions that promote and cause disease. 

Some 70,000 chemicals are being dumped into our environment, 65,000 of
which are potentially hazardous to our health. We live in a virtual sea
of pollutants, and carry many of these toxins within us. They can be
found even in unborn children. A 2004 study by the Environmental Working
Group identified 287 industrial chemicals in babies’ umbilical-cord
blood, including 180 known to cause cancer and 217 that are toxic to the
brain and nervous system.

In my research to develop a detoxification system for prospective
mothers, I recently learned about a naturally occurring mineral called
zeolite, which has a unique, negatively charged, crystalline structure.
Zeolite is formed from the fusion of lava and ocean water, and combines all
four elements. I feel that zeolite is an alchemical gift from God. It
has been used for more than 800 years in Asia as a remedy for overall
health and well-being, and is on the FDA’s GRAS list (generally
recognized as safe). Zeolite is available commercially in a purified,
activated form, in the zeolite product.

The results of research on zeolite are very impressive:
1. Zeolite appears to prevent and may become an important treatment for
cancer. In one study, 78 percent of the 65 participants with terminal
cancer (all types) are now in complete remission for 12 months (LifeLink
Pharmaceuticals, 2005).
2. It has a chelation-like effect in removing heavy metals
(particularly lead, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic), pesticides, herbicides, PCBs,
and other toxins from the body. These toxins are strongly correlated
with the occurrence of a wide range of diseases, including cancers and
neurological disorders such as Alzheimer’s, autism, and dementia.
3. Zeolite also improves liver function, indirectly improving
elimination of pesticides, herbicides, and xeno-estrogens.
4. Zeolite appears to block viral replication, and may prove to be a
potent anti-viral and general remedy for all viruses. To date, 40
anecdotal cases of herpes zoster have reportedly been healed. Preliminary
anecdotal case studies suggest that it may help alleviate rheumatoid
arthritis, multiple sclerosis, and hepatitis C as well as the common cold and
flu.
5. Zeolite’s binding power was proven during the Chernobyl disaster,
when tons of it were used to remove radioactive cesium and strontium-90
before they contaminated local water systems.
6. Zeolite creates a natural buffer in the system by establishing an
optimal pH level (between 7.35 and 7.45), which in turn activates healthy
brain function and a strong immune system.
7. It shows promise as an effective detoxifier for prospective mothers.
Recently, at the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center, Zeolite was added to
the protocol for the 10-day detoxification program for prospective
mothers. In two women who just completed the program, toxins in their
breast tissue dropped significantly – from 12 in one and 13 in the other
to only two – over the course of seven days. Although anecdotal
evidence and centuries of use in Asia suggest that zeolite is safe to use
even during pregnancy and breastfeeding, its safe use in pregnancy has not
been proven in double-blind studies.
8. According to testimonials, zeolite promotes a sense of well-being,
clarity, and happiness. It appears to do this as a consequence of
eliminating toxins and also, according to preliminary research, by increasing
serotonin production. One study suggests that zeolite also helps
relieve depression.
9. Anecdotal reports suggest that zeolite increases energy, immune
function, and general health.
10. Zeolite neutralizes the formation of nitrosamines in the stomach.
Found in processed meats, nitrosamines are one cause of stomach cancer.
Another positive effect on the stomach, according to many anecdotal
reports, is relief of acid reflux.
11. Testimonials suggest that zeolite captures triggering antigens,
which cause allergies, migraines, and asthma, decreasing the rate and
severity of these symptoms.
12. Zeolite directly absorbs free radicals and thus decreases free
radical activity and damage to the body.

Zeolite is a clear, tasteless, and odorless liquid that, taken daily as
oral drops, supports us in living healthy, happy, and active lives in
an increasingly toxic world.


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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 January, 2006 »

I think thats the longest post Ive ever seen Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 January, 2006 »

Followed by the shortest

Good read though don't you think?
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 January, 2006 »

Heh Heh!

I have seen longer on other forums....

it is a good read however......

I am interested IF the Zeolite is not NanoTech. processed!
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 January, 2006 »

wow...Namaste Dmetri,what an awesome thought provoking post,,you are officially amazing!!

bing! another karma point coming your way soon,can ya feel it???hee hee..

keep em coming,you little fountain of information ,you..

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 July, 2006 »

I wonder what they mean by nanotech processed? Does it mean small, or made by litte wee robots that create the mineral? Little robbots is what I imagine when I see nanotechnology mentioned, but I'm not sure the world is there yet.

Since it's a naturally occuring mineral I woudl guess it just means it's processed to make the particle size very small.

Anyone know?
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 July, 2006 »

I've been doing some more reading and have decided to give zeolite a try. Consider me your guinua pig! *grin*

Gabriel Cousins is using it at Tree of Life now, and there has been a lot of research into it that's quite remarkable in terms of removing toxic compounds from the human body. I've heard lots of personal stories too.

I will let you know how it goes. It's not yet available for retail sale in Australia quite yet.

Cheers,
Sheryl

PS by nonotech they just mean really small. They have it processed small enough that it will not absorb potassium or other essential minerals in the body. So I have read anyhow. Will keep you updated.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 26 July, 2006 »

I've been taking NCD (liquid zeolite) drops for almost a month now and I've noticed many great benefits all ready. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia 9 years ago and earlier this year with Chronic Fatigue. I have multiple chemical sensitivities and food allergies/intolerances. I'm by no means cured and I don't expect to reverse years of ill health in under a month, but I've noticed enough of an improvement and other unexpected health benefits to continue taking them and recommend them to anyone who cares for their health.

Even if we all ate a 100% organic raw food diet and only drank and bathed in pure filtered water and only ever applied 100% organic unprocessed products to our skin, the reality is we live in a world full of toxins. Even if you live in the country you still breathe in toxic chemicals every day!! So I'm keen to keep removing them with the assistance of the liquid zeolite.

I actually went to a lecture by the Biochemist (Rik Deitsch...mentioned earlier in this thread) from the companies scientific advisory board here in Brisbane the other week and everything he said made a lot of sense. No alarm bells went off...only admiration for this naturally occuring mineral and what it can do to support our good health. I'm a very sceptical person and I've studied biochemistry at uni as a part of my health science degree and everything he said made sound scientific/medical sense to me. I'm that impressed from the facts and my own experience so far with the product that I've actually decided to become a distributor. AND I HATE NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES!! But the reality is that word of mouth advertising works. I mean look at how often we all tell each other about some great new product we tried. Or great cafe we went to. Or band we heard. Even Miessence (a Queensland-based organic body products company) went the way of network marketing...because it works. Business leaders are predicting that it's the way of the business future because in our depersonalised world people are starting to demand more personal face-to-face, one-on-one attention when their making consumer decisions in a form that is convenient to them. I mean look at party plan...it used to be just tupperware...now there's a whole host of party plan businesses and more popping up every day.

My theory is, I'd rather some company pay me for marketing their product to my friends, family, colleagues, etc,  than them pay some actor or professional sportsperson who's never used the product to say "use this product...it's great" and then pay some multinational media conglomerate millions of dollars to run their ads. I figure this is a fairer system  smiley

If anyone wants a good read, check out this webpage. Dr Gabriel Cousens is mentioned in it for those who are a big fan of this raw foodist.

http://www.newstarget.com/015232.html

Till next time,
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 02 August, 2006 »

Hi , Superbiomin , Pascalite , Auterra  are other names for something similar.
Different feedback responses from it but so does everything. Animals make an effort to drink from water that has rockdust in it. So perhaps you can still use it in the way the Hunzas might have . Not by directly consuming it but merely putting it in the water.
Im taking superbiomin at the moment 
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